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Topic #44319 146 posts Started by malpaso
ok, i finished wiring the horn in last weekend, so i'll post up what i did in case any of you guys do an aftermarket wheel like me. i used an NRG steering wheel with an NRG quick release and a SPARCO steering wheel hub. for connectors, i used 2 eyelet connectors and an inline splice connector. the reason i used the inline splice connector was in case i want to put the stock wheel back in, i didn't FUBAR the wiring or stock connector. plus its easy to put in and take off if needed.





there were two wires on the quick release and steering wheel horn button, but there was only one wire on the hub. basically i ended up using the one wire from the hub as the positive (signal wire) for the horn, and then i used one of the eyelet connectors on the black wire from the quick release as the ground. i grounded it via one of the screws that attaches the quick release to the hub. there is a metal shim that goes between the quick release and the hub, so you will need to take some cutters and trim out a notch big enough for the connector.



after you get the quick release or wheel firmly attached to the hub, you'll want to move onto locating the signal wire for the horn at the connecter by the steering column. its the green wire at the end of the connector. an easy way to make sure is to take a short piece of wire, slide one end in the connector which is the contact for the green wire and ground it out. if you have the right wire, the horn will beep. i highly recommend doing this with the key out of the ignition. it will work without the key, and the reason i recommend doing it with the key off is so you don't short to ground a different circuit and fry it.


now you're going to need to make a wire that will go from the green wire to the back of the hub. there is a contact area that you need to touch the signal wire to. the contact is the gold colored ring that allows you to keep contact while the wheel is turning.
in order to keep the signal wire contacting the gold ring on the back of the hub, i made a bracket that will constantly touch the gold ring. i made it from a piece of scrap metal i had laying around. it is important to make a smooth curve to the side that will contact the ring, as you don't want to scrape the hell out of the ring, which will lead to wear and a scraping noise.




the part in between my fingers is the part that touches the gold ring.

now you'll want to cut some 16 gauge wire (keep very close to the same size wire as what is at the connector from the steering column) to about 5". on one end you will want to put the second eyelet connector. the end with nothing on it is where you will use the inline splice connector at the green wire.


as for a place to put the bracket i made to contact the gold ring, i am just using the attaching point where the stock clock spring (steering angle sensor) screwed in, and i used the screw from the clock spring as well. sandwich the eyelet connector from the wire and the bracket, then tighten down the screw.



make sure that the curve is directed to make the smoothest path on the gold ring and make sure there is decent tension on the bracket.




don't forget to double check your work through the process and keep checking to see if the horn works through the process. if you keep checking as you go, then the less you have to back track if you make a mistake. it's pretty simple and easy though.
Will this swap from f.ex the Celica T23 to T20 actually work if you collide? Have somebody checked this?
I just swapped a 99 rav4 wheel into my 5th gen (looks like a 98-99 celica 3 spoke). The 5th gen cruise control switch is an analog device as far as I can tell, with 4 wires on it. The Rav4 switch was a 2 wire digital. So I had to reuse my switch. It fits half decent using two of the holes already in the new wheel. Had to make a little bracket out of a peice of metal that I had but that was it. I thought I was going to be able to put the charge from my 5th gen airbag into the new wheel but it's much bigger than a 6th gen airbag like is pictured at the start of this thread, so no go. I could cut and splice the wires but I'm afraid that the trigger system is different so I decided it was safer just to leave the airbag out. I yanked the airbag light from the dash as well as the ABS light which I also have permanently disabled.

All in all it looks pretty good and the 1" smaller wheel makes for much quicker handling. Can't find the card for my camera or I would have taken pictures for all this but if anyone needs to see what I did with the cruise control switch I can get a picture of it.
GUYS!!.. i want to share a very very important information with you guys that i just discovered just now!!.. i can confirm this.. coz its working on my car now.. for all you guys that have the gen7 steering wheel n want the cruise control to work with your current clock spring.. instead of splicing n stuff.. you can get the newer version cruise control lever from a 98' or a 99' and its plug and play!!.. i got it to work.. i'm SO SO SO SO HAPPPPYYYYY... SO YUP.. will take some picts to prove my point!!..

FINALLYYY..

BOWAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAA..



This post has been edited by shegarhuney: Jan 18, 2010 - 5:35 PM
I swapped a GT4 wheel w/out an airbag into my 6gc and it worked great, but decided that id rather have an airbag for safety and emissions. I put it all back together and my light wont go off. Any reset procedures or problems i may have caused? I plugged in all the harnesses and got the clock spring lined up in the center.
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QUOTE (AnaXyd @ Jun 20, 2009 - 10:27 AM) *
>Will this swap from f.ex the Celica T23 to T20 actually work if you collide? Have somebody checked this?

Have a Gen 7 wheel in my Gen 6 SSIII and was easy to swap, just plug and play with horn and airbag.



1996 Green JDM GT41998 White JDM SSIII1994 Black JDM Supra Aerotop1994 Black JDM GT41999 Black UKDM SR1996 Black UKDM ST
Thanks to malpaso who redirected me to this thread from the gtfour.ch forums to find out how to mount my Lexus IS200/Toyota ST205 JDM hybrid wheel to my ST205.

My problem is just the different airbag connector.
I'll use the Lexus wheel because it's leather and the airbag from the JDM ST205 wheel because of the Toyota Logo.
I have a Rav 4 airbag here two I got from a Lexus guy who wanted the Airbag, also because of the logo, so we swapped.

The airbag from the JDM wheel has two brown wires, the one from the Rav 4 wheel a black an a red one, both have the small connector.
If I cut the wires and mount the big connector from my '96 4-spoke wheel to one of the airbags, how do I find out which way it should be connected?

cya, abraxxa
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QUOTE (abraxxa @ Jan 16, 2010 - 9:52 AM) *
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The airbag from the JDM wheel has two brown wires, the one from the Rav 4 wheel a black an a red one, both have the small connector.
If I cut the wires and mount the big connector from my '96 4-spoke wheel to one of the airbags, how do I find out which way it should be connected?


See this topic made by Michelle. Answer is there smile.gif. And do not forget post some pictures when it's done!

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
Does the RHD JDM st205 wheel have an air bag? and if so, is it as "direct" of a swap as all these others?

edit: even if it doesnt have an airbag, how easy of a swap would it be?

This post has been edited by devilsden97: Jan 16, 2010 - 12:25 PM

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QUOTE (malpaso @ Jan 16, 2010 - 8:14 AM) *
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QUOTE (abraxxa @ Jan 16, 2010 - 9:52 AM) *
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The airbag from the JDM wheel has two brown wires, the one from the Rav 4 wheel a black an a red one, both have the small connector.
If I cut the wires and mount the big connector from my '96 4-spoke wheel to one of the airbags, how do I find out which way it should be connected?


See this topic made by Michelle. Answer is there smile.gif. And do not forget post some pictures when it's done!


Black is ground, red is power. If the two wires coming off the wheel itself are both brown, you will need to use a multimeter to see which is which.

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QUOTE (devilsden97 @ Jan 16, 2010 - 9:25 AM) *
>Does the RHD JDM st205 wheel have an air bag? and if so, is it as "direct" of a swap as all these others?

edit: even if it doesnt have an airbag, how easy of a swap would it be?


RHD vs LHD shouldn't matter where the steering wheel is concerned, since it's a circle tongue.gif

As for the directness of the swap, shouldn't be any more direct or less direct a swap than any other wheel discussed here. The wheel will swap right over, the airbag either will plug right in or it won't and you'll have to splice it in. No biggie.
no more fuss.. the missing link ladies n gentlemen..

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QUOTE (FORGMANN @ Jan 17, 2010 - 1:44 PM) *
>you don't need to splice any wires just buy this adapter

have to order from here not your dealer ..

http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=407&p=173&g=21




This post has been edited by shegarhuney: Jan 18, 2010 - 5:37 PM
Since this thread is pretty much the most thorough how-to-swap-your-steering wheel, I'd love to see it completed with information on how to splice in the 7th gen cruise stalk for those of us not lucky enough to get a 98-99 or whatever it was that's plug-n-play.

As a side note, in the interest of consolidating info, here is how to clear the airbag code, as per the BGB for a '95 USDM Celica
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QUOTE
>CLEARING CODES
1) At DLC, connect a jumper wire to terminal Tc. See Figs. 11
and 12. Connect another jumper wire to terminal AB. Turn ignition
switch to ACC or ON position. Wait about 6 seconds.
2) Starting with terminal Tc, apply body ground alternately
to terminal Tc and terminal AB twice each, in cycles of 1/2 to 1 1/2
seconds (sequence is: Tc, AB, Tc, AB). Finally, keep applying body
ground to terminal Tc until air bag warning light flashes quickly,
indicating codes are cleared.
NOTE: When alternately connecting jumper probes to terminals,
simultaneously release one probe from one terminal while
connecting other probe to other terminal. If time interval
between probings exceeds 0.2 second, codes will not clear.
OMG... I really didn't know what my now 3 years old topic can make smile.gif. Thank you all with sharing with your own ways how to solve airbag issue. It's really amazing. bowdown.gif

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
Now, back to that cruise stalk swap! I'm clearly electrically challenged, so the odds of me figuring this out any time soon are slim. Help? BAAAAAAATMAAAAAN!
I just looked over my notes, it's not super clear.

From the 6gen connector from the clockspring there's 3 wires
red
white
white w/black stripe
right ? (and the black horn)

7 gen to 6 gen
red to red
black (cut) to white
white to white w/black

that all I got, I took them both apart and saw the diff, check itr out smile.gif
good luck

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
Good to see that the adapter fits!
I'm still waiting for mine to arrive, one to three weeks. frown.gif

cya, abraxxa
malpaso. I understand that you need a puller to remove the column to completely remove wheel but would I be able to take the wheel, unscrew that center piller and somehow rotate my steering wheel 180 degrees without removing it? 2 years back when I had engine swap they mounted my steering wheel upside down. I was wondering if I could pull this off without a puller.

Thank you sir

Captain Pessimist
I removed mine about a year ago without a puller but it took about 10-15 minutes.

cya, abraxxa
I needed a puller to remove my 4 spoke wheel, definitely NO way I would've gotten it w/out a puller, but to remove the 3 spoke wheel I don't expect I'd need a puller whatsoever. My guess, Yarik, since yours has been removed once already, is that you may not need one.

If you do need one, you can get it from Autozone; they "rent" them - you buy it for $20, use it, and return it for a refund (their policy!)
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QUOTE (abraxxa @ Jan 29, 2010 - 11:49 PM) *
>I removed mine about a year ago without a puller but it took about 10-15 minutes.


exactly. depends on wheel... old ST st.wheel was impossible to remove w/o puller but at GT-four it was easy. So unless you give a try you never know smile.gif

No more replicas... This is evolution... This isSS-four:)________[Featured Celica of 6gc.net @ 2010]_________
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QUOTE (shegarhuney @ Jan 18, 2010 - 2:34 PM) *
>no more fuss.. the missing link ladies n gentlemen..

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QUOTE (FORGMANN @ Jan 17, 2010 - 1:44 PM) *
>you don't need to splice any wires just buy this adapter

have to order from here not your dealer ..

http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=407&p=173&g=21





Just thought I'd update this with my own findings, I was able to order this part off of http://www.handsontools.com/; prior to ordering I emailed to confirm part is in stock - part is in stock and will ship within 48 hrs. Part costs $16 on this site, but shipping is a bit high at $10 for UPS ground.

Edit: sub-"herness"? lol

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Feb 16, 2010 - 4:02 PM
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jan 22, 2010 - 5:23 AM) *
>I just looked over my notes, it's not super clear.

From the 6gen connector from the clockspring there's 3 wires
red
white
white w/black stripe
right ? (and the black horn)

7 gen to 6 gen
red to red
black (cut) to white
white to white w/black

that all I got, I took them both apart and saw the diff, check itr out smile.gif
good luck



Can anyone confirm this? I spliced in my 7th gen cruise stalk this weekend but it's not working.

On the 7th gen stalk, the black is crimped in with the white w/black wire, so I basically did the same with the clockspring side of the harness, cut in the W and W/B to the same on the stalk. I'm thinking this is where I went wrong - do I need to separate the B and the W/B on the stalk and splice them in separately to the clockspring side?

Also, would this possibly cause an airbag ecu code? I spliced in my airbag again, blue to black, yellow to red, reset the airbag ecu but the light is still on. I ran diagnostics on it, it's Code 12. Anyone else get this problem?

I have to run through DEQ in a month, and am pretty sure I won't pass if my SRS Warning light is on. Help! tongue.gif
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Feb 16, 2010 - 5:01 PM) *
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jan 22, 2010 - 5:23 AM) *
>I just looked over my notes, it's not super clear.

From the 6gen connector from the clockspring there's 3 wires
red
white
white w/black stripe
right ? (and the black horn)

7 gen to 6 gen
red to red
black (cut) to white
white to white w/black

that all I got, I took them both apart and saw the diff, check itr out smile.gif
good luck



Can anyone confirm this? I spliced in my 7th gen cruise stalk this weekend but it's not working.

On the 7th gen stalk, the black is crimped in with the white w/black wire, so I basically did the same with the clockspring side of the harness, cut in the W and W/B to the same on the stalk. I'm thinking this is where I went wrong - do I need to separate the B and the W/B on the stalk and splice them in separately to the clockspring side?

Also, would this possibly cause an airbag ecu code? I spliced in my airbag again, blue to black, yellow to red, reset the airbag ecu but the light is still on. I ran diagnostics on it, it's Code 12. Anyone else get this problem?

I have to run through DEQ in a month, and am pretty sure I won't pass if my SRS Warning light is on. Help! tongue.gif


how did you clear the airbag code? At the DLC?

◊◊◊My F/S Thread!◊◊◊QUOTE(14:19:21) Daniel: That was a JDM hole in the side of the box too. There was so much JDM trapped inside that box that they couldn't contain it, so they had to put a JDM hole in the box to let the JDM out.QUOTEFerdi says (11:29)No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings.
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jan 20, 2010 - 2:25 PM) *
>Since this thread is pretty much the most thorough how-to-swap-your-steering wheel, I'd love to see it completed with information on how to splice in the 7th gen cruise stalk for those of us not lucky enough to get a 98-99 or whatever it was that's plug-n-play.

As a side note, in the interest of consolidating info, here is how to clear the airbag code, as per the BGB for a '95 USDM Celica
>
QUOTE
>CLEARING CODES
1) At DLC, connect a jumper wire to terminal Tc. See Figs. 11
and 12. Connect another jumper wire to terminal AB. Turn ignition
switch to ACC or ON position. Wait about 6 seconds.
2) Starting with terminal Tc, apply body ground alternately
to terminal Tc and terminal AB twice each, in cycles of 1/2 to 1 1/2
seconds (sequence is: Tc, AB, Tc, AB). Finally, keep applying body
ground to terminal Tc until air bag warning light flashes quickly,
indicating codes are cleared.
NOTE: When alternately connecting jumper probes to terminals,
simultaneously release one probe from one terminal while
connecting other probe to other terminal. If time interval
between probings exceeds 0.2 second, codes will not clear.



Edit: Samir, I'll email you the PDF out of the BGB - it's got diagrams and PICTURES! lol

Edit again: Here's the PDFs for anyone else who wants them. "srs.pdf" has the wiring diagram, "airbag restraint system.pdf" contains trouble shooting, reset info and codes interpretation


This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Feb 16, 2010 - 5:06 PM
ive got the BGB, thats why i was asking if thats how you cleared it. wink.gif In that case, im gonna guess something bigger is wrong, incorrect wiring or something? code 12 is not very specific....

◊◊◊My F/S Thread!◊◊◊QUOTE(14:19:21) Daniel: That was a JDM hole in the side of the box too. There was so much JDM trapped inside that box that they couldn't contain it, so they had to put a JDM hole in the box to let the JDM out.QUOTEFerdi says (11:29)No, it looks like a hooker put her acid vag on your hood. Acid vag = bigger problem than a few dings.
I think you're right, I think it's something with my connections actually.

Today I ordered the adapter harness - a bit too little, too late perhaps, I don't know. I depinned the clock-spring side of the connector, but didn't actually CUT anything off, so it's possible I could re-pin the connector, use the adapter, and be good to go!
Hey guys,

I am thinking hard about doing this swap, but I see a lot of people who are having trouble with it and I need to drive this car daily. I have a few questions, and I know some of them have been answered, but I want to be 100% confident and clear before a buy the parts to start the swap. My car is a 95 USDM by the way. First off, if I am lucky and able to find a 98-99 wheel do I still need to do splicing and modding to get the airbag to connect? What about the Rav4 wheel (looks pretty much the same imo)? Regarding cruise control, will I not be able to use my existing 6g cruise control stalk?

Shopping list:
7th gen Wheel or Rav4 wheel or 98-99 6gen wheel
7th gen airbag
Airbag connector adapter
???