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Topic #44319 146 posts Started by malpaso
As above a massive thank you to Malpaso for popping this up and everyone else's input is appreciated smile.gif

I've only got one small issue is that on the UK spec GT (early 95) I've not got the yellow spiral connector but my horn doesn't work. is it just a case of finding the black wire and extending it then attaching to the gen 7 wheel?

Many thanks although it does look much better now biggrin.gif



This post has been edited by sr666: Nov 10, 2012 - 7:03 PM
Got any picture of how it was connected to your previous wheel? Surely there isn't some rocket science behind the horn connector, can't be anything more than a single wire that makes a negative contact when pressed

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You'd think it'd be simple but in the ones shown there there's the yellow spiral adaptor on mine there isn't one. I couldn't see a black wire else it'd be simply just a case of extending the wire back to the bolt (not the centre spline) which would attach the wheel to so when the horn is pressed the circuit s complete surely?
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QUOTE (sr666 @ Nov 12, 2012 - 4:10 AM) *
>You'd think it'd be simple but in the ones shown there there's the yellow spiral adaptor on mine there isn't one. I couldn't see a black wire else it'd be simply just a case of extending the wire back to the bolt (not the centre spline) which would attach the wheel to so when the horn is pressed the circuit s complete surely?


The harness that goes from the clock spring to your cruise control also handles the horn. There would have been a black wire that was riveted to the internal spring structure of the stock wheel. You need to cut that wire off of the stock wheel and put an end on it that will allow you to bolt it to one of the four nuts on the airbag explosive.

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QUOTE (sr666 @ Nov 12, 2012 - 4:10 AM) *
>You'd think it'd be simple but in the ones shown there there's the yellow spiral adaptor on mine there isn't one. I couldn't see a black wire else it'd be simply just a case of extending the wire back to the bolt (not the centre spline) which would attach the wheel to so when the horn is pressed the circuit s complete surely?


The harness that goes from the clock spring to your cruise control also handles the horn. There would have been a black wire that was riveted to the internal spring structure of the stock wheel. You need to cut that wire off of the stock wheel and put an end on it that will allow you to bolt it to one of the four nuts on the airbag explosive.


That's fine but I've not got cruise I'm in a Euro model lol. Cheers I'll have another look when I remove the wheel again smile.gif

Thanks smile.gif
At the very least there should be (or should have been) a black ground wire attached to the old steering wheel. You just need to find where it went, and hook it to the back of the 3-spoke wheel's explosive.

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Perfect cheers I'll have another looksie.

Thanks for the replies smile.gif
Back from the dead:

You'd think that after so many years of posting you'd see the actual size of the torx bit mentioned by someone. XD

Anyone know what the torx size is for the 2 bolts?

1993 Celica GT Coupe - sold1994 Celica GT Liftback
T27 if I recall correctly.

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QUOTE (richee3 @ Jun 26, 2013 - 4:34 PM) *
>T27 if I recall correctly.


Thanks I'll check it out when I get my wheel.

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They're either T27's or T30's. I'm leaning towards T27's. Which steering wheel are you going with?

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QUOTE (richee3 @ Jun 26, 2013 - 10:45 PM) *
>They're either T27's or T30's. I'm leaning towards T27's. Which steering wheel are you going with?


Nothing expensive. Bought a replica from a local shop. Waiting for it to arrive to pick it up. I think it's an NRG replica not sure.

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>no more fuss.. the missing link ladies n gentlemen..

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QUOTE (FORGMANN @ Jan 17, 2010 - 1:44 PM) *
>you don't need to splice any wires just buy this adapter

have to order from here not your dealer ..

http://toyota.spx.com/detail.aspx?id=407&p=173&g=21





Just thought I'd update this with my own findings, I was able to order this part off of http://www.handsontools.com/; prior to ordering I emailed to confirm part is in stock - part is in stock and will ship within 48 hrs. Part costs $16 on this site, but shipping is a bit high at $10 for UPS ground.

Edit: sub-"herness"? lol




Hey whats up everyone,, got a quick question, I am in the middle of this swap,, got the cruise control squared away so I'm just left with the airbag connection. For those of you who have done this swap with this subharness,,,does it really make a difference, meaning no srs airbag light on? I don't mind splicing wires n what not but if i know that this subharness will not give me any code issues off the bat then I'd feel more comfortable about shelling out $40 bucks,, (shipping is pricey) Any input at all greatly appreciated, thanks again for all you who have contributed to this topic.

This post has been edited by saleenvic: Jan 21, 2014 - 6:35 PM
ok it depends on what u want. you can get this adapter, you can splice the harness or you can buy the clock ring.

the clock ring part n0 84306-12070 it came in various cars and can be had for cheap en ebay and yards. ravs, camrys, some lexus.

I am going to get the appropriate part because just in case I ever sell the car, but mostly ill be more content.

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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jan 21, 2014 - 11:35 PM) *
>ok it depends on what u want. you can get this adapter, you can splice the harness or you can buy the clock ring.

the clock ring part n0 84306-12070 it came in various cars and can be had for cheap en ebay and yards. ravs, camrys, some lexus.

I am going to get the appropriate part because just in case I ever sell the car, but mostly ill be more content.



Thanks for the reply back. I was reading that those that did this swap were getting the SRS airbag light on right, and were having to reset the airbag ECU to get the code to clear. I haven't connected the airbag yet,, but whether I go with splicing the wires or the harness adapter, if i get the airbag light on I can just remove the code with a OBD II scanner correct, to eliminate it,,, or do either way I need to reset the airbag ECU no matter what route I choose?

Just calculating my next step lol.
ok, when i did mine, never got the airbag light on. and I spliced mine,

it is when i did my swap, that i ran the car with no airbag, that i got the code.

so maybe people hooked the batteries while they car the car with no bag..

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I also spliced the wires and never got any airbag issue... SRS light comes on with the key turned, stays on for about 5 s, and goes off... just as it did on the 4-spoke wheel.

Using this harness might be a good idea if you feel that you will someday switch back to your stock wheel.

My '97 ST slow mod thread
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QUOTE (Nihil @ Jan 23, 2014 - 8:46 AM) *
>I also spliced the wires and never got any airbag issue... SRS light comes on with the key turned, stays on for about 5 s, and goes off... just as it did on the 4-spoke wheel.

Using this harness might be a good idea if you feel that you will someday switch back to your stock wheel.




I appreciate the feedback guys, thanks.
Got mine in thanks to this post and others for helping me out.


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Today I prepped my 7th gen Celica wheel for install in a 4 post wheel equipped wheel car. I didn't want to do any cutting and splicing so I depinned the 7gc clockspring plug and repinned it for a 6gc plug.

Here's the difference, for anyone interested:






So I depinned the plug, and had to cut off the old pins and solder in some of the bigger donor pins. I was trying to avoid this, but it's not difficult. Three wires and I was finished, but it would only be one wire for anyone who doesn't have the E shift buttons.




After that was finished, I put all of the new plugs into their homes. The two wires on the far left are for the E-shift buttons so you guys can ignore them. They'll be used in a different project.



Now that this is done, I will be able to use an IS300 clockspring to get the signal out of the steering wheel and into the steering column. Of course, the plugs in the steering column won't plug into the IS300 clockspring, but I grabbed some plugs and pigtails at the junkyard a few days ago so I can repin those and make the IS300 clockspring and 7th gen steering wheel all plug and play for a Toyota equipped with a 4 spoke steering wheel. Since my Celica came stock with the 3 post wheel, none of that was necessary, but I have a new project coming up...

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>Since my Celica came stock with the 3 post wheel, none of that was necessary, but I have a new project coming up...




New project you say
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>Since my Celica came stock with the 3 post wheel, none of that was necessary, but I have a new project coming up...




New project you say


That he does. Can't wait till he gets his hands on it at the end of the month.

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Just a quick snap of what I'm currently working on. Excuse the mess...

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>Just a quick snap of what I'm currently working on. Excuse the mess...



Did you ever get this swap functioning. I am interested in getting media controls into the my Celica.