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This post has been edited by Batman722: Apr 21, 2007 - 8:27 PM

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oh man buddy! im sorry to hear that frown.gif atleast you have the good ole ST right?
ill help you with that as soon as i can.

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i think "OH SNAP" would be appropriate here smile.gif

what car did it happen to? when was it last changed?

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sad to hear that mate... frown.gif

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that sucks D
didnt you already buy the tbelt and waterpump ect for when you were going to do the headgasket?

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yes. I have a timing belt, water pump and a metal head gasket sitting in my kitchen kindasad.gif

I got the car back to the house and I'm just going to wait until it gets warmer to replace everything.

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yes. I have a timing belt, water pump and a metal head gasket sitting in my kitchen kindasad.gif

I got the car back to the house and I'm just going to wait until it gets warmer to replace everything.

its supossed to be in the 50's the next few days... wink.gif

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thank god our engines are non-interference

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yes. I have a timing belt, water pump and a metal head gasket sitting in my kitchen kindasad.gif

I got the car back to the house and I'm just going to wait until it gets warmer to replace everything.

its supossed to be in the 50's the next few days... wink.gif

I would love to but I have no time off to do it. My new plan is to take 3-4 days off in a row in late April and bang this out. I need to make sure it's warm (I hate being cold), research everything down to the letter, and have no fear - and maybe have you or the horniak give me a hand on one of those days biggrin.gif

I'm just glad it broke when I was so close to home last night...

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i'll help any way I can baby wink.gif

This post has been edited by hurley97: Mar 11, 2007 - 7:29 PM

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thank god our engines are non-interference

ehmmm what????

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Sorry to hear that, good luck getting it back on the road.

Try and take lots of pictures when you do your headgasket replacement as I will be doing that sometime in the near future.

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Sorry to hear about your incident.

Is your engine ok? I'm not quite sure what the consequences are after having a snapped timing belt.

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thank god our engines are non-interference

ehmmm what????



I want this question answered by the knowledgable on the site bc i have been wondering the same thing, are our engines interference or not? Bc I have been wondering whether I should be looking into changing my belt just to be on the safe side since i've put 41k on it since i bought it and i have no clue if it is still a stock belt or not. I plan on doing road trips this summer and i don't want my car breaking down anytime soon.

EDIT: Non-interference means when the timing belt breaks the valves are Not involved... ( i believe)

This post has been edited by 6gcSTVT: Mar 12, 2007 - 12:53 PM

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Yes they are non-interference. Shouldnt be any damage to the valves.

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yes. I have a timing belt, water pump and a metal head gasket sitting in my kitchen kindasad.gif

I got the car back to the house and I'm just going to wait until it gets warmer to replace everything.

its supossed to be in the 50's the next few days... wink.gif

I would love to but I have no time off to do it. My new plan is to take 3-4 days off in a row in late April and bang this out. I need to make sure it's warm (I hate being cold), research everything down to the letter, and have no fear - and maybe have you or the horniak give me a hand on one of those days biggrin.gif

I'm just glad it broke when I was so close to home last night...

ill help fo sho. just need to get my own wheels spinning first. and i like the being warm idea also.

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Yes they are non-interference. Shouldnt be any damage to the valves.


What celica engines does this apply to? I had a friend who was getting rid of his 93 gt and the timing belt broke and his mechanic said the valves could be bent, he gave it away for 300 bucks...i believe it was a 5sfe? Thats the only reason why i didn't touch it at the time (Years ago).

Darin H.
Interference motors. Might not be conclusive but its a start:

1986-95 1.5L Tercel
1981-83 2.2L Pickup
1984-87 2.4L Pickup
1982-88 2.8L Celica Cressida
1987-94 3.0L 4-Runner

Unfortunately that mechanic didnt know whether or not it was interference. the 5sfe is not.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Mar 12, 2007 - 3:01 PM

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or he was just trying to make some money...
Theory #2 sounds more probable
7AFE and 5SFE our NON interference.. sadly my 2ZZGE is =[
What are the "pros" of having an interference engine?
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What are the "pros" of having an interference engine?



Interference engine - A conventional modern engine design. It is a configuration of which when a valve is open at it’s greatest point, it exists in the same area that the piston travels into, and will be in shortly. The benefits of this design are a closer tolerance, shorter engine, more freedom in combustion chamber design and valve angle. The downfall is if and when a timing belt/chain fails, the valve will not not close, and the piston will strike it. (http://paultan.org/car-jargon/)




I can't believe I didn't see this, that sucks dude.
Hope you get her going soon. smile.gif

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Yes they are non-interference. Shouldnt be any damage to the valves.


What celica engines does this apply to? I had a friend who was getting rid of his 93 gt and the timing belt broke and his mechanic said the valves could be bent, he gave it away for 300 bucks...i believe it was a 5sfe? Thats the only reason why i didn't touch it at the time (Years ago).



your friend got jipped

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sorry to hear that, and hey if your looking for warm weather, weve been in the high 70s all week, come and do it over here, i have a nice big shop to do it and weather doesnt matter either way. Good luck with the repair.

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I had no idea there was such a thing as a non-interference engine. somebody donated an engine to my auto class that had a timing belt break on it (straight 6 BMW motor). we pulled the engine apart and a couple of the valves were severly bent. surprisingly the pistons and rods were ok though...

knowing the 5sfe is a non-interference definately gives me some piece of mind though.

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Damn Dustin.....I'd be willing to help out if I have a few days off when you do it.

Might just be easiest to yank out the whole engine, then while its out index everything and do the head gasket, timing belt, and any other parts you may want to refurbish while its out. All that would be required would be to lay the whole harness on top of the engine, remove the axles, coolant and p/s lines and then hoist that mofo outta the car once the mounts are unbolted.

If all the parts needed were on hand, 2-3 people could get it done within 2 days, easily. Let me know if you'd like a hand, I'll come up if you want.

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Change the belt regardless. Even if no other damage is done, you will still be stranded if the timing belt breaks. If you are always close to home, it may not be a big deal, but it's not something I would want to happen on a road trip. You would have to get the car towed, and you probably won't have options like doing it yourself or searching for the best price. I'd replace the water pump at the same time and check the oil seals for leaks.