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I just put mine in today, eautosource gave me 2.75" piping and it just barely fit in the hole, the fuse box doesnt go back either, ill have to make something custom. It took about half an hour. I didnt notice a difference except in throttle response, its def less than with a sri, however the sound lower down is such an amazing growl... and maybe a little top end power, i know it pulls really nice through the top of 2nd when it struggled a little before.

Im happy, it was worth the 30 bucks lol.

If you were in my position and you wanted more sound would you put in the bypass valve? I dont care if i lose 1 or 2hp lol

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I just put mine in today, eautosource gave me 2.75" piping and it just barely fit in the hole, the fuse box doesnt go back either, ill have to make something custom. It took about half an hour. I didnt notice a difference except in throttle response, its def less than with a sri, however the sound lower down is such an amazing growl... and maybe a little top end power, i know it pulls really nice through the top of 2nd when it struggled a little before.

Im happy, it was worth the 30 bucks lol.

If you were in my position and you wanted more sound would you put in the bypass valve? I dont care if i lose 1 or 2hp lol

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10 pages lol


it's louder without the bypass valve....like i said i have been drivin mine now for a while through water and if its installed right you shouldn't need it...i actually had my buddy drive it around the block the other day and i was like theres noooo way thats my car...he came around the corner and i was like HOLY $hIt it was so loud...but the accord CAI works great if its done right and it def helps with the HP

Possiable Sticky mods?? anyone else agree?

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shoes.


what??

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how do you know which one is 2.5" piping and stuff on eBay? anyone recently bought one from a reliable source off of eBay thats 2.5" piping?
bump, i want too for my ST....
Not Bump! These guys are not good ebayers. Sent me the wrong piping.

ALSO

WARNING

The filters they send you are NOT real filters. They are steel mesh grills that are for track use only.

You should run to oriellys or autozone and get a REAL K&N cone filter.

The steel mesh grills are going to let small particles of dust through.

I had it like that for about...4,000 miles.

"You should take a short walk on a LONG PIER"-Crazy SteveMy Celica's SRI
so what is the difference between sri and cai. what is better. so the valve makes the cai worse? kindasad.gif confused...

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so what is the difference between sri and cai. what is better. so the valve makes the cai worse? kindasad.gif confused...


if you are talking about the bypass valve, NO it will not make the CAI worse, it will make it less LOUD.

if you have a CAI you NEED a bypass valve, unless you feel like cleaning out your throttle body with scraps of old shirts trying to get water out.

A SRI is too high to suck in water. CAI is too low.



"You should take a short walk on a LONG PIER"-Crazy SteveMy Celica's SRI
You do realize it takes a fair bit of force for an engine to suck up a significant amount of water and to get that much water on your filter, you need to almost dunk it.

You don't NEED a bypass valve, but if you like peace of mind, then go for it.
whats the most reliable source right now on eBay for the 2.5" piping accord cold air intake? all the ones i see listed either say 3" piping or dont mention it at all.
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You do realize it takes a fair bit of force for an engine to suck up a significant amount of water and to get that much water on your filter, you need to almost dunk it.

You don't NEED a bypass valve, but if you like peace of mind, then go for it.


Well just expect to not go anywhere when it floods.

"You should take a short walk on a LONG PIER"-Crazy SteveMy Celica's SRI
lol, ok. When my town gets it's 11 inches of ANNUAL rainfall in one day, I may be concerned. No hurricanes up here sir. I've never seen it flood here in almost 30 years.

From what I read, Houston gets almost 5x the annual precipitation, so I think you have more to worry about than I do. wink.gif
anyone gotta pic of this cai with bypass valve installed. or let me know where the valve would go. thanks
also, 2 piece 90-93 accord cai also worked fine, right?
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Is this what I should buy? I'm gonna try to get it done this week. need a little help just week the buying the right intake part. thanks
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would this one work. looks like it only has one hose connection.
i'll just stop posting every single pic i see. you guys let me know....
It's better to buy a 2 piece cold air intake. Otherwise, you would have to cut it in the right spot just to make the fitment good. And also, 2.5" piping is perfect piping. 2.75-3.00" are a tad big so you would have to do some cutting on the whole for the airbox hole. You should try and read the STICKIES Jason since you are new. They have a sticky on a custom CAI and have already covered what right intake kit to order. But I'm gonna post it again right here for you.

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Well I finally got my cold air intake done...well... almost... still need some bigger hose clamps and put everything back togther...

but here are a few quick pics of it...

Accord 90-93 kit
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running under modified fuse box..
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Thank you everyone for the help and special thanks to urbandork for the how to! :-D


This post has been edited by FortuneCookie: Oct 21, 2007 - 1:00 PM
BTW, I would really consider buying a 2.5" piping, instead of 3" for Cold Air. I did a vacuum study back then for redesigning intake systems. The smaller the piping, the stronger the vacuum. Considering restrictions is at an advantage here becuz the cold air you are trying to suck in will suck in faster with a 2.5". Where as 3" piping is a bit large and will have the cold air suck in slower due to large size. You are trying to get the cold air from a distance and 2.5" is best for that in my opinion. Its physics.
^ partially true imo, but i have a slightly different opinion on this. although a smaller pipe will result to more vacuum (or air travelling at higher velocity) and a larger pipe will flow more air per cross-sectional unit but at lesser velocity and lesser vacuum. what makes one pipe better than the other is whichever has the highest mass flow rate (ie. mass per unit time).. not necessarily the pipe that offers the most vacuum will be better..

feel free to correct me if i'm wrong...

This post has been edited by azian_advanced: Oct 21, 2007 - 6:18 PM

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thanks for the info. i'll get to buying this week. i thing though, i thought i looked at all the posts on this topic and did not see these pics. are STICKIES seperate from here? where are they located? Thanks again
pics are on the 1st and 2nd page...what else did you say you need pics of?

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i got all the pics needed now. i was asking for a pic with by-pass valve, but i'm in so.cal, honestly, i don't think i'll need a by-pass, so no biggie. thanks a lot for all the pics and info. real clear and helpfull. thanks again.
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^ partially true imo, but i have a slightly different opinion on this. although a smaller pipe will result to more vacuum (or air travelling at higher velocity) and a larger pipe will flow more air per cross-sectional unit but at lesser velocity and lesser vacuum. what makes one pipe better than the other is whichever has the highest mass flow rate (ie. mass per unit time).. not necessarily the pipe that offers the most vacuum will be better..

feel free to correct me if i'm wrong...


Even if you were to have a higher mass flow rate, the pistons can only burn and take in air as much set as they can. The whole point being, 2.5" gives you better responce and colder air. Where as 3" will have a slower time to take in the air from the filter which is afar due to less vacuum and all you are sucking in most of the time is the air that is in the pipe which we already know is getting heated by the engine bay. The 3" will be better suited for short ram intake.

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i got all the pics needed now. i was asking for a pic with by-pass valve, but i'm in so.cal, honestly, i don't think i'll need a by-pass, so no biggie. thanks a lot for all the pics and info. real clear and helpfull. thanks again.


yea...like i said theres no need for a bypass valve unless you really feel you need it but once you put the CAI on you will hear and feel a nice little difference. good luck with it n post back n let us know how it worked out.

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You do realize it takes a fair bit of force for an engine to suck up a significant amount of water and to get that much water on your filter, you need to almost dunk it.

You don't NEED a bypass valve, but if you like peace of mind, then go for it.


Well just expect to not go anywhere when it floods.



what about rain. will it suck it up?

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^ not if its put in the right way like mine is...it will be mostly cover by the wheel well plastic and everyting else...its not that big of a deal....if you want it then go for it but it's NOT nessary

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Have you guys ever thought that that air that gets into the intake is taken from around 6-10 inches from the burning hot pavement when its sunny?...where the air is warm...actually it doesn't really matters. CAI are for sound smile.gif

This post has been edited by Rayme: Oct 23, 2007 - 12:41 PM

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i'm not concerned about the rain or puddles... there is very little water that enters the area where the air filter is located (behind the bumper, outside the engine bay and in front of the splash guard).. it pretty much has it's own, somewhat enclosed space.. and it will take more than just light splashes or mist to go all the way up the piping and inside the engine..
and unless you live in a place that gets floods every other year, i wouldn't recommend installing a CAI.

This post has been edited by azian_advanced: Oct 23, 2007 - 5:03 PM

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> air that gets into the intake is taken from around 6-10 inches from the burning hot pavement when its sunny?...where the air is warm...actually it doesn't really matters. CAI are for sound


ever felt air in your engine bay at 5000 rpms???? pretty sure "warm" would be a complete and total understatement for that one...

This post has been edited by Redline08: Oct 23, 2007 - 6:40 PM