Sorry to all you die-hard celi fans but i have to get rid of my celica, an ~80whp car that looks fast around my area gets me no where.

I want to sacrifice the looks of a celica and go with an integra, or del sol. The aftermarket support for those "ricers" is amazing and fairly cheap. Not to mention they are honda which in my opinion can last longer than a yota, actually its probably equal.

So i went on the hunt and found the gsr or type r integra has a bite, my friend has a 4dr gs version (gs< gsr< type r) that doesnt look fast but his $1500 turbo eats most stock v6's and v8's at my school.

Im 17 and im on a pretty tight budget, but after selling my celi (if i even can) i think i can round up $4,000-$5,000. I know i could buy an integra or del sol with this but i dont wanna jump into things without getting opinions from people who know cars.

what would u do with 4-5k if u needed an import with some looks and substantial performance? No civics either lol (ug i could never steep that low)

pros and cons of integras would also be much appreciated.

Thanks!





p.s. when i bought my celi i was 15 and i knew nothing of performance or handling, just that it ran and it wasnt a pos. Please dont flame me for disliking their performance.

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I'll tell you what I did with that amount of money...


Bought the Yelli Celi.

Seriously, why not save up some cash and pull a swap? Drop in a 4AGE 20V. They pack a serious punch. People target Hondas. They are the most commonly stolen cars and cost more to insure because of it.

I mean its reall y up too you .....your gonna wind up dumping the same amount of money into the Intg......and a GS 4 four door only comes in auto....so you might want to look into another car.

drop a 3sgte in that bad boy. it will kill all of your integra and civic friends. on the track of course. + it'll look 100x better
if you must get a teg atleast do the jdm front end condition. i see so many tegs and civics it makes me sick.

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Really? my friend had a stick obviously (turbo), i just guessed on the gs cause he said at the crank it makes about 140 stock, which translates to the gs or ls or soething else.

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it has a salvaged title, and velocity stacks turn me off cause i need a dd lol

dont get me wrong that telli celi was the most bom celica ever, if i had a junker civic and my celi i would buy the yelli celi and beat the crap out of the civic as my dd

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cant cause of budget and time, mostly just budget, and IMO the st looks worse than a jdm front end integra.

This post has been edited by Redline08: Jul 10, 2007 - 2:55 PM

do what you want bro its your car and money. What ever makes you happy.

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actually has a clean title.

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I don't think he is selling the Yelli Celi, but saying the 4age 20v would be a great swap which I would highly agree on.

This post has been edited by BLINKYxMUNKEY: Jul 10, 2007 - 2:57 PM

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Yes. +1

just so you realize... most del sols are slower then your car. if you want to upgrade, at least get something good.

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but you're going to try and spend like 5 grand on another car?
if you can't afford a swap you can't afford a car...

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Yeah, I'm confused as well. You can't spend the time or money on the celi, but you can if you get a honda? Or are you trying to find one that already has a lot of someone else's time and money dumped into it?

I would honestly like to see a honda last as long as a celi... But anyways if your spending 4-5k to find a new car. The celi would be that new car with that money put into it. I mean a 2nd gen swap could cost around 3-4k. And still have 1k to spend on other parts. Hope you get what your looking for.

I'd assume he's going to SELL the Celica...then buy a car with that money. Which is not money he'd have to do a swap.

lawl @ you all. The 20v 4AGE Silvertop is a joke, anyway. Xpander's dyno'd a whopping 114whp. Who knows what the conditions where, but that's still no where near worth it. Maybe if you pour an inordinate amount money into it, such as Coomer, it might get a few ponies.

GSR Teg would be the hands down choice if you are contemplating it. Stock for stock, and mod for mod would blow the doors off a 6th gen.


<inside joke>And Dan, at least an ITR would run again one of these days.</inside joke>

i test drove a gsr b4 i got my celica (i think it was a 99 or 00 or sumthin)

it's not bad. faster n all.. but i couldn't stand the interior... looked like it was from the 80s... but then i kind of care more about looks than speed anyway...

or u could just get a celica GT?... but then my family has never owned a car with more than 200hp... so...

This post has been edited by elvasoshexai: Jul 10, 2007 - 7:43 PM

cheap, fast... sounds like a dsm... keep the celica, save up a grand or two and you can buy a descent 2nd gen project car n go from there, while still having the good looking celica for a dd i got a semi built 95 tsi for my first dsm for 1500 and went from there, all in all spent 3k total to buy & mod the car, hit in the 12's and i had an 89 acclaim for a dd. imo, dont blow money into a car unless you are secure enough to do so (have another car, have alot of money) doesnt quite seem like your there yet, save your money and buy something nice that you will like, like a type r in great condition n go from there, seems like you like your teg's, but also seems like you prefer them due to their price for the performance, any serious aftermarket mods usually kills a cars reliability -or- drivability, have power, but only 2 throttle positions SUCK for normal driving and is only good at a strip

edit in bold

This post has been edited by jason: Jul 10, 2007 - 8:27 PM

yea just to clear things up mynzeyes was right, AFTER i sell the celica i will have 4-5 grand.

The celica gt has a mere .2 liter difference over the st and my friends got one with a CAI and catback that runs equally with my lil st with a SRI. So thats out of the picture.

Thanks for the del sol warning tho, i didnt think it was possible to get slower than the ST.

Finaly whats a dsm and tsi?

thanks

This post has been edited by Redline08: Jul 11, 2007 - 12:00 PM

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DSM is Diamond Star Motors (Mitsubishi, Eagle, Plymouth). The Mitsubishi Eclipse is also badged as an Eagle Talon and Plymouth Laser (1st Gen)

the TSi is the turbo AWD version of the Eagle Talon. Basically a cheaper Eclipse GSX.

you just gotta have lots of spare monies in the bank for when that DSM breaks 4 times in 1 week

Sounds like you're approaching a money pit. Take it from a guy who been there, done that: Save your money. Keep your celi since its so reliable.

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can you say crank walk

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its a large pit you put money into. comes with a free shovel.

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This post has been edited by laff09: Jul 11, 2007 - 6:06 PM

Intergras are a good choice GSR is par to the Celica GTS stock per stock. and the GTS runs Low 15s/High 14s [great drivers] Stock. With the common mods you can get to mid 14s [good launch is a must.]

Honda = cheap parts left and right. Your choice. Me personally. Im a Toyota guy, Were finally getting rid of the only NON Toyota car in our driveway.. that damn 84 200SX.. now thats undepowered!

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7 afe = st = 1.8
5 sfe = gt = 2.2
so there's a .4 diff!!!
Anyways, seriously if it were me... id keep the celica

This post has been edited by dustin15brown: Jul 11, 2007 - 9:39 PM

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Still, theres hardly a difference

I would keep the Celica, but if you have to move on to something other than a Toyota get a 240SX or something. I would just do a swap though. You could do a 3sgte swap for $5k, so why buy another STOCK slow car for that $5k when you get still have something that looks hot as hell? Not to mention for someone your age, that's good experience tearing stuff apart. That's how I first learned about cars.

(Wait, you said your 17 right?)

yea 17 and the only way i can really get 5k is by selling my celi. So a swap is not any where in my future, not to mention i have an auto which wouldnt hold up at all to a 3sgte.

ah....take it manual conversion is out of the question for you? Well, the Del Sol is slow but easy as hell to do swaps on, and TARGA TOP! Integras are the same....you could probably get a FC RX7 for under $5k (if you don't mind rotary).