I will be undertaking my manual to power windows and locks conversion soon! yay! So in preparation for it, if anyone has a wild hair and is willing to take some pictures of their power setup for me, I would very much appreciate it. Here's what I need:

- pix of behind the door panel so I can see where the rail, motor and lock actuator bolt on
- pix of how the wiring harness is run along that same inside part of the door, up to where the rubber thingie goes into the panel by the door hinge
- pix or description of where the harness comes out after run into the above mentioned panel
- if possible, pix of where the other end of the wiring harness connects to. (back of fuse box under kickpanel?) If pix are too difficult, a description of where this thing goes would be great!
- pix of the door lock relay. I know it's somewhere under the dash, down by the gas pedal. That's all I know. Same goes - if pix are too difficult, a description of what this plugs into.

I'm visually oriented, so please use "landmarks" in any descriptions, and colors, i.e. "next to the gas pedal, above the hump and near the white connector" or whatever.

Thanks so much! I'll follow up with a how-to w/photos when I do the conversion.

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Feb 26, 2010 - 2:28 AM

hope this one is good.

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Okay. I'll probably be taking my driver's door apart next weekend. You'll have to work out the mirror image though as it is a UK car.

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It basically just runs along near the bottom. There are a couple of clips to keep it in place. I'll circle them with red pixels for you.

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The door loom is a single loom that provides wires for the courtesy light, window motors, remote locking, speakers and door mirror. For the driver's door there are 8 connectors in the door and two connectors behind the kick panel. For the passenger door there are 7 connectors in the door and two behind the passengers' kick panel. Given Toyota's liking for having many different looms for the same generation, I suspect you'll need to swap out the door looms.

The loom comes through a white rectangular plastic grommet/panel protector and plugs into the body loom very close by (about 6" away). As mentioned above, the loom is terminated in two white plugs.

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It is directly above your right knee when sitting in the driver's seat. Black or charcoal grey plastic box possibly with a bright orange connector. Says "Door Control" on it. On UK cars, directly above the driver's left knee . If you put your hand under the trim, you can probably feel it with ease.


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Yea the purple and grey wires aren't standard. Mod for puddle lights?

I can't see behind the plastic but it's a start!

What are puddle lights?

I have the loom and the relay. I just don't know where to plug the relay in. Or the connectors behind the kick panel. I'll look around down there and see if I can find something that looks like it's just waiting for that relay.

Any pix you can get this weekend would be greatly appreciated. I'll just reverse it in photoshop and voila! USDM!

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sorry those wires are additions i made to have another light in the pocket...

Griff, I'll try to grab you some pics, I'll be doing a "test speaker fit" & installing some Dyno this weekend. I dont have the plastic, so i'll get you a few shots before it'd deadened. That way nobody has to remove their existing plastic, B/C it's a PITA to get back on (and stick).

did a walkthrough on changing the regulator, maybe that will help you

Changing power window regulator

^ I read and bookmarked that thread. It's excellent information, thank you for bringing that to my attention! I forgot all about that door skin business, I remember previous cars I've had having it, but mine actually does not have it on either side. I guess that was part of the corner-cutting of the ST. It's alright, I remember it being a colossal PITA anyway.

So basically I'm left with this:
- Door lock actuator: where does it go?
- Door lock relay: I nosed around for it a bit last night, couldn't find where it plugs in. Pix anyone?
- where do the various connectors plug in for a power source?

Thanks again to everyone, I really appreciate your help!

Hope these PICs help.

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Those are totally helpful - at this point, I don't think there are really any pix that WON'T help! Thanks for posting that, much appreciated.

Still need to know where the relay goes, the actuator (the little electric part that makes your locks un/lock) and where the harness plugs in at the end for a power source.

Here are two more pics not that great but I hope you can use them.

i wired my jdm mirrors today, see if this helps!!!

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The above pic from njccmd2002 shows the door wiring loom entering the picture from the top. Just out of shot is where the loom passes into the body of the car through first the rubber grommet and then through the back of the rectangular white plastic loom protector grommet. The two sockets shown are the termination of the door wiring loom. Then the body wiring loom plugs into those. The picture is for the driver's side but the setup is almost identical for passenger side.

Unfortunately, my car is still at the garage having its transmission worked on so no pictures from me this weekend. Hopefully I'll have some next weekend if you still need them.

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sorry, should have put explanations

These pictures are great! They'll make a lot more sense to me too once I get all my stuff taken apart and can compare. One question - what's the thing that looks like a relay that says Denso on it? I'm assuming that IS a relay. Is it the door lock relay? I sure hope so, because if it's some type of relay for the power windows, then I'm missing it.

Edit: I forgot to say thank you! Thank you! Keep any pix coming; the more the better. I'm planning to rip everything apart next weekend and get into this! I CAN'T WAIT!!!! If I can leave a little early one day this week, I'm doin' it then (as long as it's not raining!)

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Jun 16, 2008 - 12:04 PM

really dont know what that relay is.... il try looking up the part no

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I assumed it was something to do with the folding mirrors you have got. I haven't seen anything like that on the various UK and JDM Celicas I have worked on although it does appear to be part of the door loom.

He customized the relay for those mirrors though, so it can't be for the mirrors. Hmm. Wait - he has a convertible. I bet it has something to do with that. Maybe the motor relay for the top to go up and down.

autoloc has some good kits.

Okay, I'm undertaking this project this weekend. I have the DS door panel off and I've discerned which motor goes to which side based on the positioning of the window rail.

Question - do I need to remove the inside of the door (the metal part) in order to remove/replace the existing window track and mount the new one w/its motor? If so, HOW? Which bolts need to unbolt in order to do this? I've figured out which 3 bolts hold in the existing track. Will I be able to unbolt those and pull the window off the track w/out removing the inside of the door? It appears that the thread about changing the power window regulator indicates that I don't need to do that. (but maybe I do, to remove the existing window crank?)

I'm a little lost here, hoping someone can help by morning.

One last thing - where the heck does the door lock actuator go inside the door? I can't quite make sense of which rod connects to which part of the lock, and where it all bolts up.

Thanks!!!!!

This post has been edited by GriffGirl: Jun 21, 2008 - 4:32 PM

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I wouldn't expect so. I would have thought you can feed the bits through one of the openings. Certainly it is much easier to feed the wiring loom through with the speaker removed.

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I'll take some pics tomorrow. In the mean time:



^^ The two connectors at the top are the tweeter and the mirror connectors. You can see that once the loom has passed into the door, it comes back out again the the corner of the door and splits into two branches. One branch goes to speakers, mirrors and door controls; the other branch runs under the speaker and back into the door:



It then goes to the window regulator, door acutator (behind the plastic film) , ...


... and courtesy light:


This one isn't a particularly good photo I'm afraid. You can just about make out the door loom entering the body of the car through the rectangular white plastic grommet / loom protector in the center of the picture (this is the passenger side):


Another similar shot. The rectangular plastic grommet is in the center top of the picture. The connections between the door loom and body loom can be seen in the bottom center of the picture (along with a connection between body loom and I forget what):


Similar setup for the driver's side. The door loom passing through the rectangular plastic grommet in the drivers' kick panel:


And the connections between door loom and body loom on the driver's side (also showing the connector between body and rear body loom). I've popped the plastic retainer out of the bodywork to get a better picture - you can see the hole in the bodywork that the retainer fits into just to the right of the retainer:


Finally, a picture of the door control. On UK RHD cars, it is above the driver's left knee, tucked just behind the lower dashboard trim. The bracket that holds it in place is the overexposed bracket just to the left of the box. The bottom of the steering column can be seen in the top left corner of the picture:


This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Jun 21, 2008 - 4:56 PM

Okay, this all makes sense. I'm going to have another go at the window rail and door lock motor-thingie. I'll look for your pix in the morning; you're 8 hrs. ahead of me so you're day will almost be over when I'm just getting to this.

Thank you again for all your help.

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The door lock actuator goes in the bottom corner of the door furthest away from where the loom enters the door (that is, the actuator is located just behind the connector for the courtesy light:




This one shows some of the bolts for the window regulator:

Okay - I've made good progress. I've wired in the loom and have figured out where to plug in the "socket" that has the pink wires running from it (speaker, mirror, etc. I think). There's another socket - probably the actual one for the window motor. I can't see where this plugs in though; there was one wiring harness that had nothing attached to it already in the car, and the new harness plugged in just fine to that. But that one "t's" off - one end plugs into the wiring harness that runs to the door, the other end (the homeless end) must plug in somewhere under the dash to draw power. WHERE?

I hope this makes sense. The one I'm speaking of has IIRC a blue connector, or little blue clippy things on two of the wires, like they're there to mark something. It's written in Japanese though. I only speak "american." (LOL)

Still haven't found where the door relay actually plugs in, or rather what plugs into it, but your photos make perfect sense to me and I'm just going to keep looking.

Looks like I just might have power windows (at least) by the end of the night! Woohoo!

still can't find where that last connector plugs in ... can't get the window in unless I can get that rail to slide down...

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IIRC, the window motor has a short wire coming out of it. I Don't recall whether it has a plug on the window motor itself and then an extension lead or whether the wires just come out of the motor through a grommet. But either way I am 99% sure the other end of that short wire is the connector you see behind the film in the last photo above.

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I'm not sure I understand the above. Some pictures would help. But I think you are saying that the body harness that you have the door loom plugged into is Y shaped or possibly 3 branches go into one trunk. You are looking for things to plug into the connectors on the other branches?

The bit of the door loom that ends in the body of the car should have two connectors. This should be the case for both the passenger and the driver door looms. I would expect your car's body loom to have matching connectors unused behind the kick panels so should be just a case of plugging the door looms into the body loom on each side. If this is the case, the body loom will already have all the wires connected (power and otherwise) and all you'll need to do is fit any missing relays and fuses.

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Do you have a picture of this?

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Try taking out your shifter cover, upper center console cover, radio and aircon. You sould clearly be able to see the wiring loom running down the inside edge of the center console from the very top of the dashboard to the shifter mechanism and handbrake. On my RHD car, it runs down the right-hand-side. I don't know whether that will be reversed for you on not (probably). If you follow that loom, you'll find several branches along its route. It starts off about 3/4" thick at the top and by the time it gets to the handbrake it is only 2 or three wires. At about where your radio goes, you should find a short branch ending in that big orange, grey or white plug. It may well be taped up, covered in sticky-back foam or otherwise tucked out of the way.

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Yes - this one of the two of these is the connectors I'm speaking of that seems to have nowhere to be plugged in. One of the connectors has some pink and purple wires (among others) coming from it - this one is probably the connector that wires the speaker, tweeter, little red light (you call it a puddle light I believe) and the annoying "Door is Ajar" chime. This one has a place to plug in. The other connector contains mainly blue wires coming from it (among others) and is clearly the connector that powers the window and probably the mirrors as well. I've searched and searched and have not been able to find anywhere to plug it in. For that matter, I can't find any available sockets to speak of whatsoever. I'm starting to think my car just doesn't have it - which means a trip to a wrecking yard after work today to try to locate the left and right side looms to connect these to. Otherwise this whole thing is basically a miserable failure. And I refuse to accept that.

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I'll try doing this tonight - I got so caught up in trying to figure out the window motor connector deal that it was dark before I could get to the issue of the relay. I'm willing to bet that relay is behind my stereo somewhere. I've taken that thing apart enough times at this point that I remember there being "extra" plug-thingies back there, I bet one of them plugs into the relay. I'm not so concerned about this right now.

Question - currently the position of the window motor is in the "up" position. This has effectively rendered me completely unable to actually secure the window glass in. Scary business. Is there a way to "force" the motor to slide down (without damaging the motor) so I can actually connect the window safely?

Look, pix!

This is the plug that I believe powers the window motor:




...and this is the connector that was already in the car. The above pictured will plug into the socket you see below to the right. The one I'm holding is the one that's then left with no place to plug in in to:



Here it is with the connector from the door harness plugged in to the connector that's inside the car. Note the one at the bottom; this is the one that should plug somewhere into the car. If you look right above it, you'll see in the background where the other part of the door harness plugged in (the speaker, mirror and door light). There are two things plugged in there, and a nice empty little square where it looks like there should be the thing that my homeless piece should plug in to.



So am I just missing part of the wiring harness entirely? That's what I'm starting to think. If someone could please tell me where exactly this pigtail plugs in, and if they could follow the wiring from that plugin to where it connects (behind the fuse box I'm guessing?), I will go to a wrecking yard and try to get the missing link.

i have to take apart my dash either today or tomorrow, ill post some pics....

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Okay, so that is the end of the door loom? I can't tell from the photo.

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I see. I think that is something completely different, actually. It is certainly different to the UK setup.
The way to tell is to look at each wire coming from the door loom and figure out where it goes to on that Y loom.

On the Uk cars, most of those wires go to the back of the fuseboard, some go to the other beige board.

How is the passenger side looking?