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Update or ban!

ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI]PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYOSUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper SportsEXT: WRC/TRD/404QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM)Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.Slow down Paul Walker.6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url]
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QUOTE (DEATH @ Aug 27, 2008 - 10:40 AM) *
>Update or ban!

biggrin.gif look what i got in yesterday!





Celicab gave me a gt radiator with the fans like a month or so ago, (THANKS SO MUCH BRO! biggrin.gif ) but i started thinking, man, i dont want to run into any cooling issues since i will be running a larger turbo. already have the must have AEM UEGO. also will be getting an aeromotive FPR 1:1 and a greddy emanage blue, after that i should be all set as far as motor upgrade!

i was thinking about electronic boost controller, but i will keep my manual for now.

hope to have the car back by next week sometime. i think the dyno guy comes in only saturdays, so maybe next weekend?

anyone have suggestions for later on? (water injection on the list) lowering springs, and checking on my control arm bushings also ( i KNOW they will give out.)

and yes those are seats and a sunroof and door panels and yes theyre for sale (will make thread later wink.gif )

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Aug 27, 2008 - 12:23 PM

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
Sweet! Nice upgrade. Watch that overflow spout - mine broke very easily and trying to find someone willing to weld it back on without warping the cap's mounting surface has been terrible. The welds on the spout looked good but when I tried to pull of the simple rubber tube it broke right off with little or no resistance. kindasad.gif

ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI]PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYOSUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper SportsEXT: WRC/TRD/404QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM)Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.Slow down Paul Walker.6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url]
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QUOTE (D-Man @ Aug 12, 2008 - 4:12 PM) *
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QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Aug 12, 2008 - 3:59 PM) *
>tell me what you guys think!
I think you've torn that 3 month clutch into sh!t. laugh.gif



i think that you were dumping the clutch too much thats what will happene it doesnt effect how much power you have it might slightly but a clutch is a clutch but if you were dumping it that what will happene biggrin.gif
if you put a twin plate clutch or heavy duty clutch say good bye to your gearbox biggrin.gif because if you have a high power and you put any of the performance clutch..the clutch will transfer the power to you gearbox which you will have a high chance of blowing your gearbox

This post has been edited by GT4KNG: Aug 27, 2008 - 9:28 PM
(water injection on the list)
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i would say if you want a water injection if i was you i would copy the style of the Mitsubishi evo or the Subaru sti water injection style biggrin.gif



whats so special about the evo / STi style?

and im glad you cleared up the twin plate issue, i was wondering why itchy told me not to.

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
No, twin disc is awesome, that's two clutch discs. totally different setup than normal but that's HIGH hp stuff, way over kill for your setup.
I meant just make sure the disc isn't riveted like the pics I showed you, that should be one solid piece of metal instead of two, thats all. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Aug 28, 2008 - 8:06 PM) *
>No, twin disc is awesome, that's two clutch discs. totally different setup than normal but that's HIGH hp stuff, way over kill for your setup.
I meant just make sure the disc isn't riveted like the pics I showed you, that should be one solid piece of metal instead of two, thats all. biggrin.gif


oh! i gotcha! I was confused for a sec!

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
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QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Aug 28, 2008 - 9:12 PM) *
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QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Aug 28, 2008 - 8:06 PM) *
>No, twin disc is awesome, that's two clutch discs. totally different setup than normal but that's HIGH hp stuff, way over kill for your setup.
I meant just make sure the disc isn't riveted like the pics I showed you, that should be one solid piece of metal instead of two, thats all. biggrin.gif


oh! i gotcha! I was confused for a sec!


no even the twin disc you talking about will make the gearbox last in the future...if you have enough money and you want your gearbox to last longer and you have a massive power i would rebuilt my gearbox to a dog teeth gear box which is extremely strong but noisy a bit that type of gear box you can put as much as power on it and it wont die it will last for many times and you wont be scared even if you dumb your clutch biggrin.gif.

and the style that i am talking about sti or evo water injection...is that you have 30 liters water tank in the boot (trunk) and supply 2 jets to your front mount intercooler biggrin.gif which is easy and the proper way of doing it.

in my opinion the stock clutch is better biggrin.gif.

This post has been edited by GT4KNG: Aug 29, 2008 - 1:01 AM
ah the thing is, i never dumped my clutch, im real anal about doing stuff like that, however as far as trannys go, i wish i knew where else to grab an e153 in short notice but i decided to go ahead with the s53 again. rolleyes.gif (quick shifting here i come once again)

2 jets!? cool! but at the same time, idk about spraying into the i/c. most of the guys here tap in right before the TB. i hear its more efficient. check this water injection thread lagos made

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/lag...on/P1010147.jpg

(i know lagos, itchy, pressure,batman, death, and plyr are saying "HOT DAMN! that boy FINALLY used the search button! hallenujah! laugh.gif )

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Aug 29, 2008 - 3:18 AM

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
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QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Aug 29, 2008 - 3:15 AM) *
>ah the thing is, i never dumped my clutch, im real anal about doing stuff like that, however as far as trannys go, i wish i knew where else to grab an e153 in short notice but i decided to go ahead with the s53 again. rolleyes.gif (quick shifting here i come once again)

2 jets!? cool! but at the same time, idk about spraying into the i/c. most of the guys here tap in right before the TB. i hear its more efficient. check this water injection thread lagos made

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h224/lag...on/P1010147.jpg

(i know lagos, itchy, pressure,batman, death, and plyr are saying "HOT DAMN! that boy FINALLY used the search button! hallenujah! laugh.gif )



yup you can use that its not only efficient it will cool quicker biggrin.gif, and short shift thts they way u should go with biggrin.gif
theyre in the final stages of mocking up the manifold to send it to the tig welder. (for the wastegate) It needs a few more adjustments. Because this is a 4th gen engine, they had to have a flange made b/c we could not find anyone who made a flange to build off of. So far all the parts are stainless and the flanges are all waterjetted.













i cant wait to take her out and rip the asphalt apart!

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
GIVE ME




looks great, are you using a previous gen manifold off ebay? and then mated it to the new flange?
nah its a custom manifold since the previous gens would not match.

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
where are the radiator fans?

Call me a traitor! See if I care. ;)
they took them out for now, they were just mocking everythign up to see how they would fit. that turbo looks a little close to the radiator from one angle, but should be ok enough for the fans to squeeze in cwm13.gif

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Sep 3, 2008 - 9:05 PM

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
sweet man! hey im interested in this GT rad. u speak of...?? PM me or AIM if you got it, my sn is in my profile.

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update time.... the ninja is up...its running, and almost ready..... just had a few exhaust leaks from the flange and a few other spots (custom flanges will be sanded)

PICS COMING SOON!!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif



QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
found a pic of the dp


QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
sweet man! how was the final fitment of the turbo with the fans?
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QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
why is the wastegate only tapped into 1 runner?
tweek, are you concerned about boost creep with that setup??
the old turbonetics manifold (and cheapo ebay copies) had it setup like that, with the wastegate off one runner, and everyone who ran it had terrible boost creep issues.
also, why over the axle with 3"? dont it kinda negate the benifit of having 3" having to route it like that?

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make sure the hood closes without touching the IC piping. everything " looks " nice and shinny when do you think you'll be enjoying all the power again ?

This post has been edited by Culpable04: Sep 24, 2008 - 1:56 PM
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QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Sep 24, 2008 - 2:55 PM) *
>make sure the hood closes without touching the IC piping. everything " looks " nice and shinny when do you think you'll be enjoying all the power again ?


good point! but i have an aftermarket hood (vis vented c/f) , and it seems to have a bit higher clearance.

i should be enjoying the power this weekend biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif hopefully! i cant get it dyno tuned there (dynojet not in yet and another shop is booked) so they will street tune it and i will come back to dyno it.

see the fans ferris? didnt have them in at first to make fitment adjustments.

i sure hope that CAT is gutted kindasad.gif nc dosent inspect emissions on cars before 96


This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Sep 24, 2008 - 2:15 PM

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Sep 24, 2008 - 2:54 PM) *
>why is the wastegate only tapped into 1 runner?
tweek, are you concerned about boost creep with that setup??
the old turbonetics manifold (and cheapo ebay copies) had it setup like that, with the wastegate off one runner, and everyone who ran it had terrible boost creep issues.
also, why over the axle with 3"? dont it kinda negate the benifit of having 3" having to route it like that?



those are two of my noticed concerns as well.
Over axle will not make any really noticeable difference )1-2hp maybe?!) but eh.
the wastegate is a larger issue that should be addressed though.


Matt all else said it looks great smile.gif
That's a nice highflow cat - leave it alone. There is no use trying to get .0001 HP and polluting any more than you have to.
Nice setup Matt - I expect you to run in the mid 13's now tongue.gif

ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI]PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYOSUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper SportsEXT: WRC/TRD/404QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM)Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.Slow down Paul Walker.6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url]
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Sep 24, 2008 - 1:54 PM) *
>why is the wastegate only tapped into 1 runner?
tweek, are you concerned about boost creep with that setup??
the old turbonetics manifold (and cheapo ebay copies) had it setup like that, with the wastegate off one runner, and everyone who ran it had terrible boost creep issues.
also, why over the axle with 3"? dont it kinda negate the benifit of having 3" having to route it like that?


from what i understand, there was also fitment issues with the manifold and w/g placement, but i am wondering about boost creep


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QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 24, 2008 - 2:18 PM) *
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Sep 24, 2008 - 2:54 PM) *
>why is the wastegate only tapped into 1 runner?
tweek, are you concerned about boost creep with that setup??
the old turbonetics manifold (and cheapo ebay copies) had it setup like that, with the wastegate off one runner, and everyone who ran it had terrible boost creep issues.
also, why over the axle with 3"? dont it kinda negate the benifit of having 3" having to route it like that?



those are two of my noticed concerns as well.
Over axle will not make any really noticeable difference )1-2hp maybe?!) but eh.
the wastegate is a larger issue that should be addressed though.


Matt all else said it looks great smile.gif


thanx dan! btw, do you have a link to that turbonetics manifold? i couldnt find it....


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QUOTE (DEATH @ Sep 24, 2008 - 2:21 PM) *
>That's a nice highflow cat - leave it alone. There is no use trying to get .0001 HP and polluting any more than you have to.
Nice setup Matt - I expect you to run in the mid 13's now tongue.gif


youre right matt, but if i tune the nos timing i'll run 9's! lol POLLUITION?!? im a carolinian now!! they dont care about pollution in these parts of the south! lol tongue.gif

QUOTE (Galcobar @ Oct 15, 2008 - 2:44 AM)You want power but have no money. That's a problem.Cheap. Reliable. Fast. Pick two.
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QUOTE (easternpiro1 @ Sep 24, 2008 - 3:14 PM) *
>i should be enjoying the power this weekend biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif hopefully! i cant get it dyno tuned there (dynojet not in yet and another shop is booked) so they will street tune it and i will come back to dyno it.


If you are picking it up at SCC, look for my car and tell me the progress. wink.gif

The car looks great.

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if thats a twin entry turbo and a twin ennty manifold 2 cyclinders wont be able to purge gas out the wastegate = boost creep. and yeah your gunan have a boost creep issue. sorry man.

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Hey guys,

As most of you know I do almost only wiring now, I oversee swaps at SCC that are being done on my customer's cars when they need help. My comments on the build:

1. The over-axle was my choice and is by far the best way to do it. It's the way it's ran factory, with mandrel-bent piping the extra couple bends aren't going to hurt the flow and it comes out very clean. The whole "under axle is better" notion comes from lazy/unskilled fabricators who have told their customers that going under the axle is "better", simply because they were either unable or unwilling to do it the right way.

2. Having the wastegate going into one runner was a solution to a logistical problem faced by the guys at SCC who did the build. It wouldn't have been my first choice but seeing the small amount of space they had to work with I can see why they did it that way. The manifold is a SINGLE-entry going to a single-entry turbo, so technically all four runners are in the same chamber, and the pressure in that chamber should be able to vent through the wastegate without causing boost creep. I guess we'll know for sure once it's on the road smile.gif

3. The intercooler piping easily clears the hood, it's taking the same route that it did when I personally did the swap the first time last year, except that now it's welded smile.gif

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This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Sep 26, 2008 - 12:46 PM

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