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QUOTE (Galcobar @ Feb 5, 2014 - 5:15 AM)

>Open cell foam backed by foil is also the preferred means of noise insulation for airplanes. It's used on ducting not nearly so much for heat blocking as for noise -- it's not meant as a vibration dampener.
Using open cell foam in a car is not preferred as it will absorb water which may lead to rust and smell. Even tho the car is fairly insulated from the outside world, water still penetrates through the doors and moisture in the air.
Not to mention open cell will simply fold in, if there is any pressure applied to it, lessening it's effectiveness.
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QUOTE (Galcobar @ Feb 5, 2014 - 5:15 AM)

>Mass loading is good at stopping a panel from vibrating, which is absolutely necessary when the source of the noise/vibration is the vehicle itself (either the engine, the body shaking or sound system). It is much less necessary when you're attempting to stop exterior noise from entering the vehicle, in large part because the vibration of the panel from transmitted sound waves is so much weaker. For road noise absorption is almost as effective as mass dampening, without the weight penalty.
There is a difference between mass loading a panel and mass loaded sheeting.
You don't want your panels vibrating, because that creates noise due to the panel resonating. This is where CLD(Constraint Layer Vibration Damper) tiles come to work. They control resonance, which leads to noise. You can't control resonance with a lightweight foam that effectively.
Just driving down the road creates vibrations through out the whole body of the car.
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QUOTE (Galcobar @ Feb 5, 2014 - 5:15 AM)

>If the additional mass, the loss of performance, the degraded fuel economy and the higher cost are irrelevant to your goals, then yes the Frost King is not a suitable product for your application. However, saying it is never a suitable product ignores the fact that it's designed for precisely this task -- absorption and reflection of an external noise source -- which has led to FAA certification for use in airplanes, and the success others have experienced with it.
Better or worse depends upon the goal.
Adding maybe around 20-30 kilograms of sound deadening material is not going to affect the vehicle performance or fuel economy to a point that it will be noticeable. If that's the case people should stop filling up their 60 liter gas tank full, keep their trunk always empty and never drive their children in the back, cause you know, they add weight. Not to mention a grown up person in the passenger seat.
I may have been too harsh when it comes to Frost King, but it's just that there are far better materials for the purpose. I personally like to do thing properly, with product each designed and tested for the purpose of it's use. This is where I will spend my money and time. I won't spend many hours removing interior carpet and panels just to add a inferior material knowing there is something better, even tho more expensive, but will yield a much greater final result.
I suggest you read all the information on this site I posted above:
http://www.sounddeadenershowdown.com/and the same info, just compacted.
http://store.secondskinaudio.com/Both a proven companies for sound insulation for cars.