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Topic #65738 48 posts Started by Smaay
this was my pistons after 140,000 miles


after the wire wheel


the assembly






















2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac


i bought the engine rebuild gasket kit and im missing this O-ring frown.gif anyone ever run into that before?

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
If you bought a factory overhaul gasket kit that's normal not to come with it. You can buy the oring by itself, also the the oil pump seal is also available.

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Very nice Smaay! Is the valve cover and block powder coated?
Did you end up going with MCS for internals?
looks good man! specs on the internals please?
lets have some details, man! what are your goals, ect?
looking forward to more!

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for budget reasons and since i already ordered the parts, im just refreshing the 5S-FE. stock rods, stock pistons, new bearings and rings and rod bolts. my plan in the future once i get another car to drive, will be a built 5S-FE with an E153 tranny swap.

the block i just painted with high temp engine paint. the valve cover is powdercoated a wrinkle red. it looks so sexy in person. its the same powder coating i did on my all-trac










2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Feb 24, 2009 - 2:32 PM) *
>once i get another car to drive,


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>2001 Celica GT-S Turbo
1997 Supra TT 6speed
1997 Celica GT Turbo (soon)
1990 Celica All-Trac


how many cars do you need? lol.

Anyway, good luck with the 5sfte, looks good so far.

94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
small update, here is the setup so far.







This post has been edited by Smaay: Mar 10, 2009 - 12:36 AM

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
CT26? you got me all excited with the pictures of that other turbo. I wanna see that on the 5s! biggrin.gif

94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
my all-trac is up and runnning now, but it needs serious tuning. that turbo i have on it is super laggy right now. im hoping some tuning will fix that.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
got the right injectors in.
















2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Smaay, your alltrac is sweet looking! How much power are you pushing with all that stuff? It's nice to see you doing a 5sfte also, going great so far.
That crinkle red looks mint also!

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thanks. more pics to come

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
im trying to update but its not working

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 26, 2009 - 3:58 PM) *
>im trying to update but its not working

what kinda problem you having?
(not that i can really do anything...but i can at least let chris know if there is a problem.) lol (although i can go in and edit in pics if thats what the problem is.)


got any pics of the block before the hone?

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when i try to post pictures the same way as i always do, the site times out. sorry i dont have any pics of the cylinders before i honed them but it looked pretty good. it didnt have any marks like yours did.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Some more pictures.













i should be up and running this weekend. i wired in the AEM FIC into my patch harness.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Apr 13, 2009 - 9:18 AM) *
>Some more pictures.













i should be up and running this weekend. i wired in the AEM FIC into my patch harness.

the oil lines look great! but I'm wondering why you didn't just go with the OEM 3sgte lines?

94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
i didnt have a 3S-GTE oil pan at the time and my fabricator couldnt get off his ass to check measurements to put a bung in the same place at the 3S-GTE.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
haha thats what i always see with our cars! the tech that is working on it is alway either too lazy or f's things up!
but over all man the motor looks very good! gratz
well the car is running but all the stock stuff is back on. i couldnt get the AEM FIC to work. the engine ran but it was stumbling bad. so im trouble shooting the FIC in NA mode. once its all working, then ill put the turbo stuff back on.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Its alive and running. FIC is working! it was a wiring problem. now i just have to put turbo stuff back on and start tuning.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
i installed the 460 injectors yesterday. i used the simple build base MAP function in the FIC. the software asks for stock injector size and new injector size. it then calculated a base MAP. engine ran a tad rich so i pulled some fuel. no problems running perfect, but i have a fuel leak around injector 1 so i have to check that out.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Apr 28, 2009 - 8:56 AM) *
>i installed the 460 injectors yesterday. i used the simple build base MAP function in the FIC. the software asks for stock injector size and new injector size. it then calculated a base MAP. engine ran a tad rich so i pulled some fuel. no problems running perfect, but i have a fuel leak around injector 1 so i have to check that out.

good to hear man!
get that leak fixed up, fire would suck.

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Thanks, oh i figured out why my valve train sounds like a diesel engine too. all my intake valves are .006 loose. i dont understand how that happened. exhaust valves are perfect...im going to build a tool so i dont have to pull the cam.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
some info on the FIC

well, how its hooked up is by intercepting the crank + signal. the FIC has an input and output, so its inbetween the crank signal and the ECU. the injector signals flow the other way out if the ECU into the FIC box then to the injectors.

the software is very user friendly. right click the fuel MAP and select build base MAP. input new injector size and stock injector size. it automatically fills the cells with settings.

i couldnt get a straight answer on stock injector (210-220) so i used 215 and im using RX7 460 injectors. so for anything below boost levels has a value of -53. as boost increases it is adding fuel.

Timing works the same way, you can pick -1 degree for every pound of boost, or -2 degrees for evey psi. and so on.

The FIC can only retard timing, it cant add. so far im really pleased with it. ill put the turbo system back on soon. i have a small fuel leak at #1 injector so i have to check that out.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
just a small update. im still running in N/A mode. still have the 460 injectors in and running the FIC. i havent had a single lick of problems and im getting about 28 MPG in town. i have done NO tuning to the FIC. im running on the base calibration maps that the software generated +1 for the FIC. i really need to get an RC bumper so if anyone has one or knows of one for sale, let me know!

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Update....Well i hate to say it but im not a big fan of the FIC anymore. again it could all be because im lacking some tuning. I think all my problems will be solved if i get the 3S-GTE MAP sensor. right now im clamping the stock MAP sensor and i think its just messing with everything. no matter how much fuel i dump into the fuel MAP the stock ECU is overriding it. the FIC and stock ECU are fighting waaay too much. plus im also suffering from the "dirty" toyota sensors issue. apparently toyota signals are very dirty and the the FIC has a hard time with that.

well to make a short story long... i got the plugs and pins to make my own jumper harness so i can use my AEM EMS for my All-Trac on the 5S-FE. having a full standalone will make it soooo much easier to tune.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Apr 7, 2010 - 9:58 AM) *
>Update....Well i hate to say it but im not a big fan of the FIC anymore. again it could all be because im lacking some tuning. I think all my problems will be solved if i get the 3S-GTE MAP sensor. right now im clamping the stock MAP sensor and i think its just messing with everything. no matter how much fuel i dump into the fuel MAP the stock ECU is overriding it. the FIC and stock ECU are fighting waaay too much. plus im also suffering from the "dirty" toyota sensors issue. apparently toyota signals are very dirty and the the FIC has a hard time with that.

well to make a short story long... i got the plugs and pins to make my own jumper harness so i can use my AEM EMS for my All-Trac on the 5S-FE. having a full standalone will make it soooo much easier to tune.

THAT is where it is at.
once you get that hooked up and running right, i smell great things for team 5sfte! smile.gif
interested in a set of cams for that beast? +30whp on the top end... wink.gif

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I just talked to Aaron at ATS Racing mentioning the EMS idea and he had never done that setup before. He did say that he doesnt see any reason why it wouldnt work. i have the wiring diagrams for both the 5S and 3S here so i guess all i have to do is figure out the pin changes.

He also mentioned that he has a few Gen 2 MAP sensors for a good price if anyone is looking for them.

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac