presure2

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QUOTE (Smaay @ Apr 8, 2010 - 6:19 PM)

>I just talked to Aaron at ATS Racing mentioning the EMS idea and he had never done that setup before. He did say that he doesnt see any reason why it wouldnt work. i have the wiring diagrams for both the 5S and 3S here so i guess all i have to do is figure out the pin changes.

He also mentioned that he has a few Gen 2 MAP sensors for a good price if anyone is looking for them.

yea, i cant see why it wouldnt work, you should be just fine.
i cant wait to see some screenshots of that.
when you slapping on a real turbo and going for broke????
good luck man, looking forward to your results.

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Smaay

#32

well i have most of the pinouts figured out. most of them are the same. but there are a few small differences. Manny, Dt Tweak, Jim, perhaps you can help with this.

the 5S Distributor has a G+ signal which i believe is the cam position, that relates to the G1 on the 3S. the 5S also has a crank position sensor that labeled NE, there is also an NE on the 3S. are they the same? the 3S-GTE ECU also has a G2 and G- for the distributor. what are they?

Another difference is that the 5S has a radiator input? its pin C15 lables CF, there is no 3S equivalent?

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bccentaur3

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QUOTE (Smaay @ Apr 10, 2010 - 8:31 PM)

>well i have most of the pinouts figured out. most of them are the same. but there are a few small differences. Manny, Dt Tweak, Jim, perhaps you can help with this.

the 5S Distributor has a G+ signal which i believe is the cam position, that relates to the G1 on the 3S. the 5S also has a crank position sensor that labeled NE, there is also an NE on the 3S. are they the same? the 3S-GTE ECU also has a G2 and G- for the distributor. what are they?

Another difference is that the 5S has a radiator input? its pin C15 lables CF, there is no 3S equivalent?

G1 sends crankshaft angle to the ecu
G2 is the same as G1, but is 180* out from G1
G- Ground fro G1,G2 and NE

Look inside the 5s dizzy to see if there is a 24 tooth trigger wheel. Because the 3s has one. NE is the positive signal for the 24 tooth wheel. It sends the engine speed and crankshaft angle to the ecu. Sorry got off topic, the whole 24 tooth wheel made me think of the honda dizzy haha



I am working on the Honda ecu to work with the 5sgte right now, but having issues, maybe could be a bad burn or messed up jumper wiring. I doubt its the wiring since I went through it over and over again.

This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Apr 10, 2010 - 11:27 PM

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Smaay

#34

thanks for the info

so is the 3S dizzy a Hall style and the 5S i know is a mag style. im not sure how many teeth are on the 5S Dissy but there are definatly teeth and a flat side for a mag style, just like the crank pos sensor

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bccentaur3

#35

What do you mean by Hall style?

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Smaay

#36

there are 2 types of cam position sensors, mag and hall style

are NE and G1 the same?

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Smaay

#37

ok i have all the answers i need i think. i have labeled all the wires and started sodering. its not going to be pretty. this is very fustrating. i have just about reached the point where im going to buy a premade harness like the one i wired in my FIC and just cut and paste the correct pinout. ill will post the schematic when im done and everything is working. it will be nice having a stand alone for the 5S-FTE, too bad its so $$$$

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Smaay

#38

i built my patch harness. the AEM EMS is installed and working (somewhat) the car wont start. i cant figure out why. gotta check some grounds.

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jeffrosie

#39

Whats the results so far Smaay??

Smaay

#40

i havent had time to finish this project. but as soon as i finish these turbo kits ill get back to it. i do want to finish this project because it would be nice to have a full standalone

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NOVAKx17

#41

Awesome build yet again, i look forward to seeing more,
i follow all of your builds/threads on the site!

its nice being able to learn so much from just reading a few things
and looking at some awesome pictures!

Keep up the great work man

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Smaay

#42

I try my best, i like putting the info out there

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NOVAKx17

#43

your best is all we could ever ask for , your worst would be better than alot of peoples best. ha.
you do amazing work, i'd have to definately say one of the best on the site!

what kind of numbers are you expecting to have on this build?

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Smaay

#44

well I believe that Pressure2 got close to 300. im looking to stay in the 275 range. the 5S rods look ok its the pistons im worried about

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presure2

#45

yea, it was a bit over 300whp, and 320ftlbs, @ ~19.5psi.

looking forward to your results! (i wanted to slap on a super 60 like 6 years ago when i first turboed the 5s)

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ILoveMySilly97

#46

Favorited this post. Where's the build thread for Amy's car or is this it?

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Smaay

#47

this is my old setup using the 3S-GTE manifold and CT26. Amy's car has the newer manifold and garret T3 super 60 turbo. her engine was shot in the 99 so my removing the 5S thread has pics of my engine with the turbo on it going in her car.

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ILoveMySilly97

#48

I see. I wished I was more experience in engine mods. Lol.

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