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Topic #72629 211 posts Started by stephen_lee
I've been talkin about a 3VZ swap for quite some time now (~3yrs).
I found a fairly decent, non-running, 94 GT last july for $300. Beautiful interior and everything, only a dent in the drivers door, and a broken bumper (which i have a few spares..)
Soo I picked up a manual 92 ES300 a few months ago as a donor car for my swap smile.gif
I've been driving it and good god the motor is a beast. the torque is there 100% of the time - even at 2000 rpm. The intake sounds like a pissed off Porsche. After feeling a 3s swap(DEATH) and driving the lex, i think it should produce about the same results, if not better, stock for stock. now adding the turbo should up my power even more considerably since i have 50% more displacement over the 3s. This motor redlines at 6600 and fuel cuts at 7200rpm, but falls on its face around 5600-5800RPM - comparable to the 7a. I'm thinking a good turbo will alleviate that problem smile.gif i washed the engine recently and somehow killed the AFM so when i swap I'm going megasquirt smile.gif EMS will reduce a lot of clutter in the engine bay and clean up sensors, even making it easier to turbo later. 4BAR map W/ baro correction. biggrin.gif

From Wiki:
"The 1992–1993 engine has 185 hp (138 kW) at 5800 rpm and 189 ft·lbf (256 N·m) at 4600 rpm. 1994+ have 200 hp (149 kW) at 5800 rpm and 204 ft·lbf (277 N·m) at 4600 rpm. There is no mechanical difference in the engine. In an embarrassing move, Toyota inadvertently created an engine competing with the more performance oriented 7M-GE (200 hp) and 2JZ-GE (225 hp) installed in sportier, more luxurious cars of the time. Because of this; the stock ignition timing and fueling was noticeably detuned. The power spread of the 3VZ-FE is wide, having 100% torque between 2500–4600 rpm, with power trailing off by 6000 rpm. Stock redline is 6600 rpm, and the ECU's fuel/ignition cut is 7200 rpm."

"The 3VZ-FE has a larger forged steel crankshaft and large cast rods. They can handle double the stock power output, although forged pistons & rods are recommended. A few nitrous and turbocharged examples match or exceed 450 hp (336 kW) on both the stock engine and engine management with a piggyback chip controlling fuel & ignition."


FOR NON-READERS


Engine:
92 ES300 with 3VZFE
E53 (E153) Transmission && LSD
185HP & 189TQ

Receiving car:
94 White GT
Auto Tranny (not for long..) no longer auto!
Megasquirt EMS
Turbo plans in place

>>Shopping List:
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  1. Shell for swap
  2. 3VZ-FE
  3. E53/E153
  4. Engine rebuild bits
  5. Machine Work
  6. Tranny rebuild bits
  7. ST205 Shift Cables
  8. ST205 Rear Mount
  9. ST204 front/side mounts
  10. Poly inserts
  11. MegaSquirt
  12. Turbo Bits
  13. 3L2 Paint
  14. GT4 front and riser blocks


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This post has been edited by stephen_lee: Feb 9, 2012 - 9:28 AM

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
should be a fun thread to watch, keep us updated!

st205 powered ss3 coupe
Nice! Pics of the donor car and swap recipient?

'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
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QUOTE (SwissFerdi @ Mar 9, 2010 - 6:16 PM) *
>Nice! Pics of the donor car and swap recipient?


will have those up when I get my digicam workin biggrin.gif

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
i'm doubly interested, see if you have any luck finding a way to TT that beast... wink.gif
interested in intake/exhaust manifold(s) pictures

proud =3sgte SWAPPED= '95 Celica ST owner [calling it the GT2 or half-trac]309,000 miles n' ....dead-> ALIVE AGAIN!! ~14,000 miles driven
Not going TT. I believe a single turbo over/in front of the tranny w/ a similar W2A setup as stephs 7AFTE. Nice short charge piping and reduced lag smile.gif. I'm going to have fun designing and building the manifold forthis beast lol.

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
Victoria isnt a far drive! let me know how this is going and maybe ill be able to come into town and help ya work on it!

2015 Subaru WRX. World Rally Blue/Black2001 Honda S2000. Spa Yellow/Black
[I am definitely going to watch this thread. I plan on doing a 1mz swap in the near future myself..... Later on adding a monster turbo............
uploading pics now!

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
i promise i wont threadjack but i have some questions...

seems like a lot of rwd people (i think of 350/70z in particular-also ppl who actually track their car) going with a supercharger on these big v-6s rather than a turbo or tt setup...
my question is why? the rwd can actually handle the power of a big turbo...
is this just because of a consistent powerband the s/c offers?

yet seems like a lot of fwd people choose a turbo set up...

why did you choose a turbo over s/c build? seems like a supercharger would give you the 250ish (rounding) hp you would need and subsequent torque, and you wouldnt have to worry about traction issues since it is fwd...
also less plumbing and reliability

basically i see rwd big motor cars s/c and 4 banger fwd turboing- in my mind it would be reversed.
my question again, is why?
can anyone enlighten?
i believe its about room/piping in the engine bay. fwd usually has more room than rwd. i chose turbo because it offeres more power than just a s/c. its more personal preferences than anything

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
this should be an awesome thread...cant wait thumbsup.gif

BANNED. for life, you moron.
i cant even wait lol..


so i believe i need:
all ST205 mounts
ST205 shift cables
camry inner axles
st185 outter axles
spacers for axles
and a custom mount/adaptor plate on passenger side?


am i missing anything?

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
Good luck with the swap. I look forward to the results! Btw, I like how it has a giant smile lol.
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QUOTE (hellsyphon @ Mar 10, 2010 - 11:19 PM) *
>Good luck with the swap. I look forward to the results! Btw, I like how it has a giant smile lol.


haha. It's cause she's so happy to have a worthy motor in her!

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
added pics and "shopping list"

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
oh i might be able to help you with your shopping list. i have stock gt4 shift cables and a gt4 passenger motor mount (left side if you're looking at the car)
great motor choice BTW, i did my hw too and ppl seem to love it

proud =3sgte SWAPPED= '95 Celica ST owner [calling it the GT2 or half-trac]309,000 miles n' ....dead-> ALIVE AGAIN!! ~14,000 miles driven
i'll be making some purchases soon smile.gif

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
Bought a few items off my list! took pics of donor car. will upload later smile.gif

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
any pics of the doner? lol

st205 powered ss3 coupe
yup! theyre on the first post!

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ Mar 23, 2010 - 11:04 AM) *
>any pics of the doner? lol

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
lol sweet deal... was those pics always there? idk how i missed that haha

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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Mar 23, 2010 - 1:44 PM) *
>yup! theyre on the first post!

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ Mar 23, 2010 - 11:04 AM) *
>any pics of the doner? lol



st205 powered ss3 coupe
nahh i just added them

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ Mar 23, 2010 - 11:53 AM) *
>lol sweet deal... was those pics always there? idk how i missed that haha

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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Mar 23, 2010 - 1:44 PM) *
>yup! theyre on the first post!

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ Mar 23, 2010 - 11:04 AM) *
>any pics of the doner? lol




QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
lol ok juss makin sure i wasnt goin crazy haha.. things gunna b sick tho good luck with it ill b watchin this thread

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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Mar 23, 2010 - 2:01 PM) *
>nahh i just added them

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ Mar 23, 2010 - 11:53 AM) *
>lol sweet deal... was those pics always there? idk how i missed that haha

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QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Mar 23, 2010 - 1:44 PM) *
>yup! theyre on the first post!

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QUOTE (Ted95 @ Mar 23, 2010 - 11:04 AM) *
>any pics of the doner? lol






st205 powered ss3 coupe
5sfe is pulled! pics later

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
added more updates/pics to the 1st post.
interior work and auto to manual conversion


QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
picked up some eibach springs - $175.

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
coming along nicely, pics!

QUOTEwhat hes saying is if you put blue lights in you car youll lose hp.
i know im going to get flamed for adding 'dead weight' to my project car, but i appreciate being able to talk on the highway lol. 90-95% of the sheet metal is covered w/ the foil/foam insulation and im adding the carpet padding to the panels this week after work. i have found the BEST adhesive for this is actually rubber cement. you only have to cover the sheet metal if ur laying down the foil/foam. but u have to cover both surfaces (sheet metal/plastics AND carpet padding) when you're laying down the padding. I assume i added between 25-40LBS to the car with all this insulation, and spent ~$150. Totally worth it IMO.

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
Bought a set of SS brake lines today!

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD