im hoping to get something like this done but it's harder and harder to find a clean celica
how hard is this going to be? 2nd and 3rd gen basically the same, installation-wise?
My 3rd Gen 3SGTE Swap Thread - 6G Celicas Forums
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IMO a 3rd gen is an easier swap, cause there is less wiring.
the basic mechanical parts of the swap are the same as any other swap.
>im hoping to get something like this done but it's harder and harder to find a clean celica
how hard is this going to be? 2nd and 3rd gen basically the same, installation-wise?
IMO a 3rd gen is an easier swap, cause there is less wiring.
the basic mechanical parts of the swap are the same as any other swap.
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wasnt trying to start a thread jack big guy but thanks for the tranny info. ill be starting my own thread soon, jus gotta get a few more things b4 i start strippin a few things down.
IC looks goood man! keep it up bro!
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DEFINETLY NOT.
all those parts are for sale, like SUPER cheap.
i just want someone to come get them out of my garage. lol
got most of the frame rails cut off last night, and all the dash parts off and basicly got it down to the bare firewall.
didnt take pics while we were doing it, ill go out in a bit and get some pics of the carnage. lol
when we got the clip, the intercooler and stuff on top of the motor seemed to have this weird "film" on it, almost textured, that seemed to trap most of the dust and dirt that is visable on the motor.
i took a little lacquer thinner to a corner of the IC, and it started comming off, it almost seems like the previous owner may have attempted to spray some kind of clear coat over things, but very poorly.
once i started wiping it off, the intercooler REALLY started to come back to life.
a quick pic i snapped last night of the results ( you can see the film on the entry neck of the IC still):

yummy!
for you guys that may see this, and are looking for RHD parts, be on the lookout for a for sale thread soon, i have the FULL dash minus the CC unit, and full front SS suspension and steering rack, excluding brakes and of course all the RHD firewall stuff.
cameron, start your own thread for your questions about your swap. but since the thread jack is already on:
the S54 will be just fine, provided its in good shape when you start, and your not bangin gears like your a race car driver, and launching it at every stop light like your racing NHRA.
my tranny has been taking a beating at close to and over 300hp for just about 5 years now, and art (lagos) has been on his stock tranny for longer than that.
>Soooo RHD conversion??
DEFINETLY NOT.
all those parts are for sale, like SUPER cheap.
i just want someone to come get them out of my garage. lol
got most of the frame rails cut off last night, and all the dash parts off and basicly got it down to the bare firewall.
didnt take pics while we were doing it, ill go out in a bit and get some pics of the carnage. lol
when we got the clip, the intercooler and stuff on top of the motor seemed to have this weird "film" on it, almost textured, that seemed to trap most of the dust and dirt that is visable on the motor.
i took a little lacquer thinner to a corner of the IC, and it started comming off, it almost seems like the previous owner may have attempted to spray some kind of clear coat over things, but very poorly.
once i started wiping it off, the intercooler REALLY started to come back to life.
a quick pic i snapped last night of the results ( you can see the film on the entry neck of the IC still):

yummy!
for you guys that may see this, and are looking for RHD parts, be on the lookout for a for sale thread soon, i have the FULL dash minus the CC unit, and full front SS suspension and steering rack, excluding brakes and of course all the RHD firewall stuff.
cameron, start your own thread for your questions about your swap. but since the thread jack is already on:
the S54 will be just fine, provided its in good shape when you start, and your not bangin gears like your a race car driver, and launching it at every stop light like your racing NHRA.
my tranny has been taking a beating at close to and over 300hp for just about 5 years now, and art (lagos) has been on his stock tranny for longer than that.
wasnt trying to start a thread jack big guy but thanks for the tranny info. ill be starting my own thread soon, jus gotta get a few more things b4 i start strippin a few things down.
IC looks goood man! keep it up bro!
st205 powered ss3 coupe
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow!!! wow!!! im glad to see what you are doing P!
welcome to the gen3 family! sorry been missing for so long..as for the s54 tranny it will hold up to the stock power..i think i even liked it more, it feels so much lighter and you can feel the power to the ground when you push it..the e153 is just too heavy but thats just me...
keep us updated P! Yahs! just blowing people away!
keep us updated P! Yahs! just blowing people away!
so heres some pics of the progress since the last post.
after removing the dash and whatnot:

after cutting back the frame rails:

after cutting out the firewall (no, i didnt drill out the welds, leave that for the guy who buys it! lol)

floor and door pillars:

cut in half for easy transportation:

now i gotta get rid of all the scrap, clean up the garage, and start prepping the motor! WOOT
after removing the dash and whatnot:

after cutting back the frame rails:

after cutting out the firewall (no, i didnt drill out the welds, leave that for the guy who buys it! lol)

floor and door pillars:

cut in half for easy transportation:

now i gotta get rid of all the scrap, clean up the garage, and start prepping the motor! WOOT
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That is one massacred ex-GT-4. At least its heart is going to the right place.
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last night i spent ~1hr in the garage, things are still a mess, but we should be taking all the junk metal over to the scrappers today, so that will free up some space and allow me to actually start working on the motor.
i spent a little time cleaning up the blitz BOV that came on the clip, its not 100% done, and i am not planning on using it on this swap, but i wanted to see if it would shine back up, so that if i end up selling it, it looks good for the next guy who owns it.
its the blitz super sound, after googling for some vids of it, i actually like how it sounds.
before:

after:

also, steff ordered the cam gears for me, ((WOOOT thank you steff, i appreciate your help!!)) so they should arrive soon, and she also got the t-belt for me, so once the gears arrive, ill have some good pics ect of the timing belt side of the motor while i am doing my thing.
i spent a little time cleaning up the blitz BOV that came on the clip, its not 100% done, and i am not planning on using it on this swap, but i wanted to see if it would shine back up, so that if i end up selling it, it looks good for the next guy who owns it.
its the blitz super sound, after googling for some vids of it, i actually like how it sounds.
before:

after:

also, steff ordered the cam gears for me, ((WOOOT thank you steff, i appreciate your help!!)) so they should arrive soon, and she also got the t-belt for me, so once the gears arrive, ill have some good pics ect of the timing belt side of the motor while i am doing my thing.
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If the right side ac vent and the radio bezel are in good condition pm me a price for those I don't know if you have the shifter bezel if you do pm me a price for all 3 parts. been trying to get these in Right hand drive config for a while now
wow that BOV cleaned up nice from what it was lol good work manny
st205 powered ss3 coupe
this AM i wanna go out and start pulling some stuff off the motor, getting ready for the big push.
just a few more small things to order, and ill start getting it cleaned up and ready for the install in a few weeks.
just a few more small things to order, and ill start getting it cleaned up and ready for the install in a few weeks.
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any chance you want to sell me that tag?
proud =3sgte SWAPPED= '95 Celica ST owner [calling it the GT2 or half-trac]309,000 miles n' ....dead-> ALIVE AGAIN!! ~14,000 miles driven
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damn
lol
the chassis tags are like $50 on ebay and i really want one to go where the vacuum sticker was on my car prior to swapping it.
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you mean the chassis tag? hellll no, thats going on the car.
>any chance you want to sell me that tag? 
you mean the chassis tag? hellll no, thats going on the car.
damn
the chassis tags are like $50 on ebay and i really want one to go where the vacuum sticker was on my car prior to swapping it.
proud =3sgte SWAPPED= '95 Celica ST owner [calling it the GT2 or half-trac]309,000 miles n' ....dead-> ALIVE AGAIN!! ~14,000 miles driven
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well, you could always buy a clip, like we did..lol they normally come with one.
steff is the best, today she bought by the timing belt, the ATS cam gears, PCV valve and alt. belt, and this past weekend, my hommie dustin bought by what was left of the gasket set he bought when he did his swap , so i have 99% of what i need to clean up the motor other than a valve cover gasket which is being ordered this week.
so, i went out and pulled the timing covers off and took the T-belt and gears off.
heres a few pics.
timing covers off..everything is very clean, as you would expect from a motor with 34,000 miles on it.

noticed the cam seals are starting to seep a little... lucky for me, i have em in the gasket kit!

original tensioner:

ATS cam gears:

10* of adjustment each way, advanced or retarted. ill play with these on the dyno for sure!

stay tuned!
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damn
lol
the chassis tags are like $50 on ebay and i really want one to go where the vacuum sticker was on my car prior to swapping it.
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you mean the chassis tag? hellll no, thats going on the car.
>any chance you want to sell me that tag? 
you mean the chassis tag? hellll no, thats going on the car.
damn
the chassis tags are like $50 on ebay and i really want one to go where the vacuum sticker was on my car prior to swapping it.
well, you could always buy a clip, like we did..lol they normally come with one.
steff is the best, today she bought by the timing belt, the ATS cam gears, PCV valve and alt. belt, and this past weekend, my hommie dustin bought by what was left of the gasket set he bought when he did his swap , so i have 99% of what i need to clean up the motor other than a valve cover gasket which is being ordered this week.
so, i went out and pulled the timing covers off and took the T-belt and gears off.
heres a few pics.
timing covers off..everything is very clean, as you would expect from a motor with 34,000 miles on it.

noticed the cam seals are starting to seep a little... lucky for me, i have em in the gasket kit!

original tensioner:

ATS cam gears:

10* of adjustment each way, advanced or retarted. ill play with these on the dyno for sure!

stay tuned!
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
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Ohh so clean! I bet you're stoked to get this thing in there!
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lookin good my dude!
st205 powered ss3 coupe
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Not to get off task but Wow.....i feel like a kid on christmas eve. Im excited to read the rest of your build! Im envious of your knowledge. Also thanx for taking time out to post it so the rest of us can pick up a few new tricks.
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hey, no problem man, ...reading other peoples posts like mine, and getting out there and doing things (toyota manuals in hand!) is how i learned, and im happy to provide as much info as i can for the next guy learning the same way i did.
on that note, i went out this morning and took alot of the parts off that i want to clean up and or powdercoat, i have a few ideas on some things i want to do to try and clean up the look of the motor some, and the engine bay as well.
first off is the IAC (idle air controller) line.
my plan is to run a small filter directly off the IAC valve hose, to eliminate the air pipes associated with it, and the hose that normally runs to the intake piping, before the turbo. in doing so, i will also be eliminating a few other things as well.
the TVSV (turbo vacume switching valve) is basicly going to be usless on this car, its never going to be in use, so im planning to just remove it, by removing the valve itself, (unplugging it does not affect the car at all) and the hard airline that feeds on side if it.(which is normally capped when we install a boost controller) the other line from it feeds into the air hardline that is behind the intake manifold, which is a normal airsource that gets its feed from the IAC line, and feeds into one side of the powersteering idle up valve connected to power steering pump.
the other side of the PS pump idle up valve just goes up to the back of the intake manifold.
so, i will feed the PS idle up valve a filtered air source, and leave the other line that connects to the back of the intake manifold, and that way i will be able to remove all the hard air lines that normally connect to the side and back of the intake manifold.
i will also be removing the coolant lines that feed into the throttle body.
the 2 lines that feed the throttle body come from the waterneck, and water bypass lines, both under the distributor. i will loop the line from the waterneck, to the water bypass line, and eliminate the hardlines that go along the side of the head to the back and connect to the rubber lines that connect to the throttle body.
i will post pics later to show what exactly im talking about, but for now, anybody see anything potential problems with any of that?
you guys will have a good laugh when i post the pics of everything all bagged and tagged. i've been doing this stuff long enough now that i really dont NEED to do it (i basicly put jims car together out of a 5 gallon bucket of nuts and bolts..lol), but it definetly makes things alot easier when you go to put everything back together.
pics and more to come later!
>Not to get off task but Wow.....i feel like a kid on christmas eve. Im excited to read the rest of your build! Im envious of your knowledge. Also thanx for taking time out to post it so the rest of us can pick up a few new tricks. 
hey, no problem man, ...reading other peoples posts like mine, and getting out there and doing things (toyota manuals in hand!) is how i learned, and im happy to provide as much info as i can for the next guy learning the same way i did.
on that note, i went out this morning and took alot of the parts off that i want to clean up and or powdercoat, i have a few ideas on some things i want to do to try and clean up the look of the motor some, and the engine bay as well.
first off is the IAC (idle air controller) line.
my plan is to run a small filter directly off the IAC valve hose, to eliminate the air pipes associated with it, and the hose that normally runs to the intake piping, before the turbo. in doing so, i will also be eliminating a few other things as well.
the TVSV (turbo vacume switching valve) is basicly going to be usless on this car, its never going to be in use, so im planning to just remove it, by removing the valve itself, (unplugging it does not affect the car at all) and the hard airline that feeds on side if it.(which is normally capped when we install a boost controller) the other line from it feeds into the air hardline that is behind the intake manifold, which is a normal airsource that gets its feed from the IAC line, and feeds into one side of the powersteering idle up valve connected to power steering pump.
the other side of the PS pump idle up valve just goes up to the back of the intake manifold.
so, i will feed the PS idle up valve a filtered air source, and leave the other line that connects to the back of the intake manifold, and that way i will be able to remove all the hard air lines that normally connect to the side and back of the intake manifold.
i will also be removing the coolant lines that feed into the throttle body.
the 2 lines that feed the throttle body come from the waterneck, and water bypass lines, both under the distributor. i will loop the line from the waterneck, to the water bypass line, and eliminate the hardlines that go along the side of the head to the back and connect to the rubber lines that connect to the throttle body.
i will post pics later to show what exactly im talking about, but for now, anybody see anything potential problems with any of that?
you guys will have a good laugh when i post the pics of everything all bagged and tagged. i've been doing this stuff long enough now that i really dont NEED to do it (i basicly put jims car together out of a 5 gallon bucket of nuts and bolts..lol), but it definetly makes things alot easier when you go to put everything back together.
pics and more to come later!
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ok so to follow up here are the pics of the stuff i talked about in the last post.
this first pic is the coolant line that runs from the water neck, to the coolant hardlines that bolt to the side of the intake manifold, which in turn feeds the throttle body.

this is the other line. it comes off the water bypass pipe that runs alongside the motor, under the waterneck and distributor.

this pic shows the hardlines that the coolant lines pictured above feed into. (its the silver lines)

next is the TVSV. in the pic below, you can see the TVSV, and the line im pointing to goes to the hardline that you normally cap off when you install a boostcontroller.

the other line goes to the air bypass hardline, which is why it dont have a clamp on it (it never sees boost)

and finally the airbypass hardline, which connects the air intake to the IAC.

thats part of the stuff i am eliminating, and will clean things up a bit in that area.
in the above picture, the line to the left is the one talked about above, and the one on the right goes accross the back of the motor, to feed the power steering idle up valve.

here is where the line connects to the valve. you can see how i marked the valve to show where the lines go:

the other line connects to the back of the intake manifold:


this is what it looks like with the other line removed:

once that was all set, i removed it all, then removed the intake manifold

ill shave off the stuff i dont need on the manifold, clean that and some other stuff up this weekend, and then send it all off to be powdercoated. luckily we have a guy who is right local to the house that does a good job for us.
then i pulled the turbo/manifold/DP off as one peice, i just disconnected the water lines for the turbo, disconnected the manifold/turbo braces, and the oil feed line from the block, moved the clamp on the return line, removed the bolts and pulled it off.

ill be doing the helper spring mod to help hold boost better as well.
more to come!
this first pic is the coolant line that runs from the water neck, to the coolant hardlines that bolt to the side of the intake manifold, which in turn feeds the throttle body.

this is the other line. it comes off the water bypass pipe that runs alongside the motor, under the waterneck and distributor.

this pic shows the hardlines that the coolant lines pictured above feed into. (its the silver lines)

next is the TVSV. in the pic below, you can see the TVSV, and the line im pointing to goes to the hardline that you normally cap off when you install a boostcontroller.

the other line goes to the air bypass hardline, which is why it dont have a clamp on it (it never sees boost)

and finally the airbypass hardline, which connects the air intake to the IAC.

thats part of the stuff i am eliminating, and will clean things up a bit in that area.
in the above picture, the line to the left is the one talked about above, and the one on the right goes accross the back of the motor, to feed the power steering idle up valve.

here is where the line connects to the valve. you can see how i marked the valve to show where the lines go:

the other line connects to the back of the intake manifold:


this is what it looks like with the other line removed:

once that was all set, i removed it all, then removed the intake manifold

ill shave off the stuff i dont need on the manifold, clean that and some other stuff up this weekend, and then send it all off to be powdercoated. luckily we have a guy who is right local to the house that does a good job for us.
then i pulled the turbo/manifold/DP off as one peice, i just disconnected the water lines for the turbo, disconnected the manifold/turbo braces, and the oil feed line from the block, moved the clamp on the return line, removed the bolts and pulled it off.

ill be doing the helper spring mod to help hold boost better as well.
more to come!
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looks good manny, but 2 things just to clarify. ur removing those lines completely from the back of the manifold? are they not neccesary for the swap or is it because you have another reason for doing so that i may have missed, i went back to a couple posts and i just want to understand that.
also if you could breifly explain a little about the helper spring, brentton mentioned the spring last night to me and i was curious about it. and i did read jims how to thread on it but still a lil confused on what it does.
This post has been edited by Ted95: May 8, 2010 - 5:15 PM
also if you could breifly explain a little about the helper spring, brentton mentioned the spring last night to me and i was curious about it. and i did read jims how to thread on it but still a lil confused on what it does.
This post has been edited by Ted95: May 8, 2010 - 5:15 PM
st205 powered ss3 coupe
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im removing the lines from the back of the manifold, except for the one that goes from the PS pump vsv to the intake manifold.
99% of swappers leave all that stuff. im just removing it cause i can.
ill cover the helper spring when i install it. ill prolly do that by next weekend.
>looks good manny, but 2 things just to clarify. ur removing those lines completely from the back of the manifold? are they not neccesary for the swap or is it because you have another reason for doing so that i may have missed, i went back to a couple posts and i just want to understand that.
also if you could breifly explain a little about the helper spring, brentton mentioned the spring last night to me and i was curious about it. and i did read jims how to thread on it but still a lil confused on what it does.
also if you could breifly explain a little about the helper spring, brentton mentioned the spring last night to me and i was curious about it. and i did read jims how to thread on it but still a lil confused on what it does.
im removing the lines from the back of the manifold, except for the one that goes from the PS pump vsv to the intake manifold.
99% of swappers leave all that stuff. im just removing it cause i can.
ill cover the helper spring when i install it. ill prolly do that by next weekend.
Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
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oh ok cool, ill def read that write up when you post it.
but im going to do a wire tuck once im done with mine so i can remove those same lines as well and be ok ? (not trying to thread jack)
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im removing the lines from the back of the manifold, except for the one that goes from the PS pump vsv to the intake manifold.
99% of swappers leave all that stuff. im just removing it cause i can.
ill cover the helper spring when i install it. ill prolly do that by next weekend.
>looks good manny, but 2 things just to clarify. ur removing those lines completely from the back of the manifold? are they not neccesary for the swap or is it because you have another reason for doing so that i may have missed, i went back to a couple posts and i just want to understand that.
also if you could breifly explain a little about the helper spring, brentton mentioned the spring last night to me and i was curious about it. and i did read jims how to thread on it but still a lil confused on what it does.
also if you could breifly explain a little about the helper spring, brentton mentioned the spring last night to me and i was curious about it. and i did read jims how to thread on it but still a lil confused on what it does.
im removing the lines from the back of the manifold, except for the one that goes from the PS pump vsv to the intake manifold.
99% of swappers leave all that stuff. im just removing it cause i can.
ill cover the helper spring when i install it. ill prolly do that by next weekend.
oh ok cool, ill def read that write up when you post it.
but im going to do a wire tuck once im done with mine so i can remove those same lines as well and be ok ? (not trying to thread jack)
st205 powered ss3 coupe
Thanks for the tranny today, the car looks great in person...keep up the good work and i look forward to seeing the finished product some day.
This post has been edited by alltracst185: May 9, 2010 - 12:09 AM
This post has been edited by alltracst185: May 9, 2010 - 12:09 AM
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hey no problem man, glad it went to someone who will get good use out of it. cant wait to see your project finished as well!
keep an eye on the meet section for the colt state park meet, its always a good time to come out and hang out with fellow celica/mr2 owners.
today i spent some time in the garage cleaning up some parts for powdercoat.
here are some pics.
first the 2 waternecks.


then i went to work on the manifold...a few before pics:





now for the afters:





>Thanks for the tranny today, the car looks great in person...keep up the good work and i look forward to seeing the finished product some day.
hey no problem man, glad it went to someone who will get good use out of it. cant wait to see your project finished as well!
keep an eye on the meet section for the colt state park meet, its always a good time to come out and hang out with fellow celica/mr2 owners.
today i spent some time in the garage cleaning up some parts for powdercoat.
here are some pics.
first the 2 waternecks.


then i went to work on the manifold...a few before pics:





now for the afters:





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sweeeeeet !
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
thanks D, its all stuff most people wont even notice, but it should definetly clean things up some.
should have most of the stuff back from the powdercoater tommorow.
ordered the valve cover gasket this AM, and the clear timing cover yesterday. the timing cover should be here saturday, as soon as it gets here ill get some pics of it.
should have most of the stuff back from the powdercoater tommorow.
ordered the valve cover gasket this AM, and the clear timing cover yesterday. the timing cover should be here saturday, as soon as it gets here ill get some pics of it.
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clear cover?? thats sickkkk manny cant wait to see that!
st205 powered ss3 coupe
manny, the 3rd gen clear cover was made? is it the same dude from mr2oc that did the original 2nd gen? if so let me get that info so i can buy one haha
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