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interested depending on price

QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
its going to be between 1800 and 2000. this will include the complete kit.
turbo, manifold, intercooler, pipes, clamps, couplers, oil lines, fittings, downpipe to stock exhaust, injectors and the SS box with a tune in it.

This post has been edited by Smaay: Aug 29, 2010 - 5:08 PM

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QUOTE (Smaay @ Aug 29, 2010 - 5:07 PM) *
>its going to be between 1800 and 2000. this will include the complete kit.
turbo, manifold, intercooler, pipes, clamps, couplers, oil lines, fittings, downpipe to stock exhaust, injectors and the SS box with a tune in it.


And i would buy it at that price np im looking for a nice cool 200hp DD with other mods of course hoping maybe what? 75-90hp from your kit or no?
im expecting a 100HP increase

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Do you offer lay away? J/k... When are you going to start producing these kits?

Scraps
sorry i cant offer lay away. i dont want to hold someones money. i can make the kit whenever someone is ready to get one. im hoping Erynn can get on the dyno soon

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what oil lines did you use? i need to know exactly where, size, and everything. Having trouble with mine. hopefully it will help out alot
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Sep 3, 2010 - 1:01 AM) *
>sorry i cant offer lay away. i dont want to hold someones money. i can make the kit whenever someone is ready to get one. im hoping Erynn can get on the dyno soon

what is the price???
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QUOTE (fenril007 @ Sep 24, 2010 - 2:05 AM) *
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Sep 3, 2010 - 1:01 AM) *
>sorry i cant offer lay away. i dont want to hold someones money. i can make the kit whenever someone is ready to get one. im hoping Erynn can get on the dyno soon

what is the price???

so far he has said 2grand give or take a few hundred.
yep right around 2100.

as for the oil line, i used an 18" -3 line off an adapter at the oil pressure sensor under the thermostat. then the best place for the return is drill a hol into the bung in the bottom of the block right above the oil pan. going into the pan is a little too low and seems to cause a small oil leak. you also need a restrictor for the oil feed because the 7A seems to have really high oil pressure

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smaay, haha, again, the oil pressure sending unit is between the alternator and oil filter buddy! ha. but thank you for the information
yeah yeah, you are right, i was close though smile.gif

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Jeff...ill be honest with you.IN my opinion No one is going to be a Guinea pig and buy this kit at that price..I mean Full 3sgte swaps can be had for that cost if you know the right people!!And for 7afe guys the 4ag(z)e is much more reliable and around the same power for under that cost!
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 1, 2010 - 1:09 AM) *
>yeah yeah, you are right, i was close though smile.gif



No you werent haha, thats on the other side of the motor haha.
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QUOTE (SupraKid @ Sep 30, 2010 - 10:13 PM) *
>Jeff...ill be honest with you.IN my opinion No one is going to be a Guinea pig and buy this kit at that price..I mean Full 3sgte swaps can be had for that cost if you know the right people!!And for 7afe guys the 4ag(z)e is much more reliable and around the same power for under that cost!



No one's being a guinea pig, Erynn already covered that & the results are tested & true. I'll kick in my 2¢ on it, for that matter, especially being an ST owner - I drove her car over Labor Day weekend when I went down for a visit, and it's freakin' AWESOME. The work Jeff did on it is top notch; he's an engineer by profession, and knows what he's doing. He's got the awards on his wall to prove it, too. Erynn's car looks like hell on the outside (laugh.gif sorry, Erynn but you know I'm not saying anything you don't already know! LOL) but it pulls GREAT and is a really fun ride. It's EXACTLY what I would expect out of a turbo 7A - you're not going to pull HUGE numbers on a stock block, and as a daily driver, it's a HIGHLY feasible modification to make your every day drive that much more enjoyable.

A full 3S-GTE can NOT be had for that cost, unless you score big on the engine. Once you account for incidentals, harness, etc, you're looking at a minimum of 3k. And for us ST owners, it's way more than that, because then you're talking about axles, tranny, etc. So that's a poor analogy.

4a-gze isn't "much more reliable" either, sorry, and nor can it be had for under that cost with the same power. Superchargers are NOTORIOUS for going out, I'd hazard to say much more so than turbines. You're looking at about 160-180 HP depending on which generation you get, and even with that, good luck finding one domestically. I've researched the HELL out of this, and I'd say that a 4a-gze swap into an ST is going to run *about* the same amount. So really, it comes down to a matter of personal preference. Do you want to drop in a 4a-gze for about 180 HP w/out modifications, or do you want to turbo the 7A and get about 200-215 HP off the bat? Then you start getting into HP potential (and more money) for either route when you start looking at mods and upgrades.
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QUOTE (celica74 @ Oct 1, 2010 - 11:09 AM) *
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 1, 2010 - 1:09 AM) *
>yeah yeah, you are right, i was close though smile.gif



No you werent haha, thats on the other side of the motor haha.



no its not. its on the front exactly where i got the oil feed from

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
the thermostat is right below the distributor
quick question about the car you put this kit on... ur running the t3 super 60 trim right?? and also how much wheel spin are you getting ?? i guess im just trying to figure out just how fast/ quick the car is with around 200hp..
No offense to Erynn..but shes running one of the worst suspension setups possible for the 6gc (i would know i have it!) so im sure when she pops the clutch it spins a lot...a 200whp celica is veryyy quick as it weighs nothing compared to cars that come with 200whp stock (mustang GT,NA supras,ect)

This post has been edited by SupraKid: Oct 3, 2010 - 1:25 AM
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QUOTE (SupraKid @ Oct 3, 2010 - 6:21 AM) *
>No offense to Erynn..but shes running one of the worst suspension setups possible for the 6gc (i would know i have it!) so im sure when she pops the clutch it spins a lot...a 200whp celica is veryyy quick as it weighs nothing compared to cars that come with 200whp stock (mustang GT,NA supras,ect)

yeah i figured that... just was very curious as i am still planning on doing a full build and boost with the 7a... i figured 1st and 2nd gear would spin around 200hp but just wondering what right around 300hp will do ??? ......lol just thinking about boost gets me excited!! but i have to wait for income tax time to finish my build:(....... great work though smaay
You wont see 300whp with a 7afe...unless you put ungodly amounts of cash into it...If you have a good suspension,wide GOOD tires and know how to drive you could put the power down alright...
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QUOTE (SupraKid @ Oct 3, 2010 - 6:50 AM) *
>You wont see 300whp with a 7afe...unless you put ungodly amounts of cash into it...If you have a good suspension,wide GOOD tires and know how to drive you could put the power down alright...

im going to try to be the first to do it...i am doing a full build with forged internals and the whole 9 yards... i know people say you can not have that much or the engine can not take it but when u do the 7agte it proves the bottom end can handle over 300hp... i will be starting this after income tax returns as i need my rods and few odd and ends but the cams and head is where all the magic will be performed... when the time comes ill do a complete build and take pic's ... and after it is all done and said hopefully it opens the doors to others that want to build up the 7a.... yeah i agree suspension and good tires play a high role in traction...
yeah i dont see any reason it cant be done, the head definatly needs some port work and upgrade the pistons, the rods actually i think can take it. the 7A rods are beefier than the 1ZZ rods which are toothpicks. we have made 300 on stock 1ZZ's all the time

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 4, 2010 - 4:16 AM) *
>yeah i dont see any reason it cant be done, the head definatly needs some port work and upgrade the pistons, the rods actually i think can take it. the 7A rods are beefier than the 1ZZ rods which are toothpicks. we have made 300 on stock 1ZZ's all the time

i have the forged pistons from wiseco all ready but i know the rods may hold that much but i know for sure the rod bolts wont be able to hold so i am getting paughter rods and there upgraded rod bolts ... so the bottom end will be built for 600+ hp but i will be more than happy with right around 300whp at high boost/race tune. the head as far as it goes i plan on getting custom cams along with a stg 3 head port and all....most of the parts i have for anybody thinking about doing the same is from importperformanceparts.net which you can order just the HP rebuild kit with toga racing bearings and copper head gasket and pro topline gaskets and most importantly the custom forged pistons with any comp/bore size for just above 1000.00$..
dont and i repeat, dont use a copper head gasket! you need to have the block and head machined (ringed) for the gasket. its not worth it IMO. the newer OEM gaskets are metal and work just fine. Im making over 500HP on a stock head gasket



This post has been edited by Smaay: Nov 17, 2010 - 1:02 PM

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Oct 1, 2010 - 2:31 PM) *
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QUOTE (SupraKid @ Sep 30, 2010 - 10:13 PM) *
>Jeff...ill be honest with you.IN my opinion No one is going to be a Guinea pig and buy this kit at that price..I mean Full 3sgte swaps can be had for that cost if you know the right people!!And for 7afe guys the 4ag(z)e is much more reliable and around the same power for under that cost!



No one's being a guinea pig, Erynn already covered that & the results are tested & true. I'll kick in my 2¢ on it, for that matter, especially being an ST owner - I drove her car over Labor Day weekend when I went down for a visit, and it's freakin' AWESOME. The work Jeff did on it is top notch; he's an engineer by profession, and knows what he's doing. He's got the awards on his wall to prove it, too. Erynn's car looks like hell on the outside (laugh.gif sorry, Erynn but you know I'm not saying anything you don't already know! LOL) but it pulls GREAT and is a really fun ride. It's EXACTLY what I would expect out of a turbo 7A - you're not going to pull HUGE numbers on a stock block, and as a daily driver, it's a HIGHLY feasible modification to make your every day drive that much more enjoyable.

A full 3S-GTE can NOT be had for that cost, unless you score big on the engine. Once you account for incidentals, harness, etc, you're looking at a minimum of 3k. And for us ST owners, it's way more than that, because then you're talking about axles, tranny, etc. So that's a poor analogy.

4a-gze isn't "much more reliable" either, sorry, and nor can it be had for under that cost with the same power. Superchargers are NOTORIOUS for going out, I'd hazard to say much more so than turbines. You're looking at about 160-180 HP depending on which generation you get, and even with that, good luck finding one domestically. I've researched the HELL out of this, and I'd say that a 4a-gze swap into an ST is going to run *about* the same amount. So really, it comes down to a matter of personal preference. Do you want to drop in a 4a-gze for about 180 HP w/out modifications, or do you want to turbo the 7A and get about 200-215 HP off the bat? Then you start getting into HP potential (and more money) for either route when you start looking at mods and upgrades.

Thanks Michelle, you summed it up for everyone, and yes it does look like hell laugh.gif I cannot deny that! It's a work in progress paint... someday.. .lol

The heart has its reasons which reason knows nothing of2000 7th gen GTS 6spd95 st, swapped 3sgte 3rd gen wrc version :D
quick question smaay... aftermarket injectors on the 7afe stock fuel rail... i know they have to be high imped... but as far as brands and size will most of them fit wiith out a problem ???? was planning on RC's 440cc-550cc....... thnx Lance

This post has been edited by 95celicastLSR: Dec 10, 2010 - 9:13 PM
yes they need to be high impeadance, RCs might work i never checked to see if they will fit on the head. Im using Supra 7M-GE in Erynns car, im using 460 RX7 injectors in my car. those will be much cheaper than new ones and they work!

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QUOTE (Smaay @ Dec 11, 2010 - 2:48 AM) *
>yes they need to be high impeadance, RCs might work i never checked to see if they will fit on the head. Im using Supra 7M-GE in Erynns car, im using 460 RX7 injectors in my car. those will be much cheaper than new ones and they work!

i see well i know im going to need at least 440 so i may look into some 460rx7 injectors... now does it matter what gen of rx7 ? now u say u have them on ur car right which turbo are u running/boost... i was going to go with turbonetics super 60 ..
look in Pressure2 thread, he lists the part number for the injectors, i believe they are FC non turbo, not FD injectors. im using the stock 3S-GTE turbo system right now, but im upgrading it to the same turbo on the 7A kit. its a Garrett super 60. i have plenty of injectors so those will be fine. if you are looking to turbo your 5S, stand by cause my kit will be coming real soon.

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