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Smaay
#121
i havent noticed any issues with a CG or weight transfer. the 1MZ weighs just about the same as a 3S-GTE and the E153 was designed to be in there. remember its the same trans as the ST205 tranny without the transfer case.
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
rave2n
#122
If I didn't have a 3s sitting about 15 feet away, I'd be doing one of these.

It truly is an appealing swap I wish was done back when I was making large paypal transfers!

Swap looks nice!
Smaay
#123
you could always sell the 3S and make some of your money back. the way i see it, you could buy a complete 1MZ with ECU and harness for about 7-800. 400 for the wiring work, 200 at most for an intake, and maybe 300 at most for some fab work for the engine mount and an axle carrier if you use the S54 trans and axles. thats a total of 1700

oops i forgot to add exhaust work. probably another 500 to build a Y pipe and down pipe. depends on where you go.

This post has been edited by Smaay: Oct 22, 2012 - 4:02 PM
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
kurt95gt
#124
If you find a good parts car you could do it cheaper than that
I figured this time my swap with my new 1mz would have cost 12-1400
Compared to the almost 2200 right now (not including the new motor)
95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's94 st hatch my daily driverhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235n
Smaay
#125
^^^ yep, i just searched car-part.com until i found a good engine close to me. i actually went to a junkyard in Bakersfield (about 80 miles away) just for the axle carrier bracket and I ended up buyine the entire 3MZ engine from a Sienna. it had really low miles, the harness, and ECU for 700 bucks! cant beat that!
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
kurt95gt
#126
I paid 350 for the 98 avalon with 152,000 miles an just had all major maintaince done before her daughter hit a deer. Oh an I drove it home lol
95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's94 st hatch my daily driverhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235n
UVZ164
#127
I've seen your 1MZ teardown thread, but is there one i missed about how you mated the 1mz heads to the 3mz block? or is it quite literally just swap them over?
PaukST
#128
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 21, 2012 - 6:14 PM) *
>^^^^ thats so sexy! thats what im going to do once i get the swap certified. I have a complete 3MZ from a Sienna. i just need to get the VVT 1MZ intake manifold, throttle body, and the computer. how much power are you making by the way?

after driving my 3MZ/1MZ hybrid i can tell you that this is so much faster than my dads 2002 5 speed solara. it is also much torquier and faster than my 5S-FE with the turbo system on it. Once i get all the bugs worked out ill be fabricating the supercharger.

Oh by the way my cruise control is also working. im so happy about that.


I totally didn't catch that you were going to be boosting this until just now, lol. This project just gets better and better! What supercharger and management will you be using?
1989 Celica ST Automatic "King Cobra" -- 2005-20061994 Celica ST 5-speed "King Cobra II" -- 2011-????
Smaay
#129
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QUOTE (UVZ164 @ Oct 22, 2012 - 4:27 PM) *
>I've seen your 1MZ teardown thread, but is there one i missed about how you mated the 1mz heads to the 3mz block? or is it quite literally just swap them over?


i used this thread for all the information http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=359007

yes the 1MZ heads "basically" bolt to the 3MZ but you have to block off 3 oil passages and restrict 2 of them. its not that difficult to do.
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QUOTE (PaukST @ Oct 22, 2012 - 4:50 PM) *
>I totally didn't catch that you were going to be boosting this until just now, lol. This project just gets better and better! What supercharger and management will you be using?


ill be using a M90 supercharger like what i have on the 2ZZ and a water to air intercooler.
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
kurt95gt
#131
Hey how did you get my car an you painted the wrong color mad.gif

Looks an sounds amazing great work smaay
I hope my swap is as amazing as yours one day
95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's94 st hatch my daily driverhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235n
Redmann813
#132
Quick question Smaay: I have access to a 94 1mz and an 05 1mz w/ vvt. Im trying to keep the cost as minimal as possible. I can get the 94 harness and ecu with the motor but not for the 05 1mz. I would have to source those separately. Which would you recommend? And would the obd1-2 thing be that big of a deal. (I have a 94 gt) Keep in mind I would be sending the wiring out to be sorted by someone else. Thanks in advance
kurt95gt
#133
If your wanting to keep the cost down the 94 that already has everything will be cheaper in the long run
Obd1-2 isn't a bigdeal if you send the harness out
My celica is a 94 also but my swap is from a 98
But call your local scrap yards if you can get the harness an ecu an keep the price of eather engine close to the same the 05 will have more power
95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's94 st hatch my daily driverhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235n
Smaay
#134
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QUOTE (Redmann813 @ Oct 23, 2012 - 7:20 AM) *
>Quick question Smaay: I have access to a 94 1mz and an 05 1mz w/ vvt. Im trying to keep the cost as minimal as possible. I can get the 94 harness and ecu with the motor but not for the 05 1mz. I would have to source those separately. Which would you recommend? And would the obd1-2 thing be that big of a deal. (I have a 94 gt) Keep in mind I would be sending the wiring out to be sorted by someone else. Thanks in advance



it all depends on the cost, if you can source the VVT 1MZ stuff and keep the cost down then go for that. the nice thing about the VVT 1MZ is that its still a throttle cable, not DBW. but if everything is together for the 1MZ non VVT then i suggest getting that. get the part number for the ECU and make sure it has NO immobilizer! if its coming from a 5 speed car then just get that. makes things easier
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Ted95
#135
what do you figure the 1mz will do on the track?
st205 powered ss3 coupe
Redmann813
#136
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QUOTE (kurt95gt @ Oct 23, 2012 - 9:31 AM) *
>If your wanting to keep the cost down the 94 that already has everything will be cheaper in the long run
Obd1-2 isn't a bigdeal if you send the harness out
My celica is a 94 also but my swap is from a 98
But call your local scrap yards if you can get the harness an ecu an keep the price of eather engine close to the same the 05 will have more power



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QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 23, 2012 - 10:55 AM) *
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QUOTE (Redmann813 @ Oct 23, 2012 - 7:20 AM) *
>Quick question Smaay: I have access to a 94 1mz and an 05 1mz w/ vvt. Im trying to keep the cost as minimal as possible. I can get the 94 harness and ecu with the motor but not for the 05 1mz. I would have to source those separately. Which would you recommend? And would the obd1-2 thing be that big of a deal. (I have a 94 gt) Keep in mind I would be sending the wiring out to be sorted by someone else. Thanks in advance



it all depends on the cost, if you can source the VVT 1MZ stuff and keep the cost down then go for that. the nice thing about the VVT 1MZ is that its still a throttle cable, not DBW. but if everything is together for the 1MZ non VVT then i suggest getting that. get the part number for the ECU and make sure it has NO immobilizer! if its coming from a 5 speed car then just get that. makes things easier


Thanks guys and I work at a salvage yard but when they pull motors they cut the harness'. I think Im gonna go with the non vvt because we have an abundance of those but only one vvt. Really excited to get this going but wanna make sure I have everything sorted out before I start since it's my daily. Been missing the v6 powerband since my v6 camry damn that motor is smoooth
Side note: sorry for the clutter in your thread

This post has been edited by Redmann813: Oct 23, 2012 - 2:10 PM
Tigawoods
#137
looks so great! Such an odd site seeing that in there haha.

i dont really like how it sounds though kindasad.gif
1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situationエキサイティングカーレーシングチーム!march2010 COTM:6GCfeature2014:january2015-2016-2018 COTM
Smaay
#138
no i dont like the sound either, it sounds like a freaking honda. i need to put a resonator in it
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Tigawoods
#139
good. im glad you agree. i was afraid you wouldnt love me anymore for being honest rolleyes.gif
1995 GT::::Diffusing the Situationエキサイティングカーレーシングチーム!march2010 COTM:6GCfeature2014:january2015-2016-2018 COTM
Smaay
#140
did i mention how FREAKING AWESOME it is to drive this car.
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
celicast184
#141
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Mar 26, 2012 - 10:20 PM) *
>well while im waiting for the rest of the car to get painted. here is how i got the celica Tach to work with the V6 signal

in my purchase of the 1MZ i got the gauge cluster too. i have a spare celica cluster so i took a chance on doing this mod. I think i read on MR2oc.com that this is the easiest way to do it.

first take the clear plastics off both gauges. first the celica gauge then the camry gauge.





flip the gauge over and under the tech you will see some screws. remove all of them to free the tach.





this is the backside of the tachs.



carefully move the needle to the 6 oclock position and then pull off the needles.



on the camry gauge you remove the 2 screws on the front and it will free the circuit card. on the celica gauge you have to carefully pull the face plate off, then remove the 2 screws.



all you have to do now is switch them around and put back together. This should give you a calibrated tach for the signals coming off the V6 instead of an I4.


this can also be done by switching just the circuit board on the back side. if you look closely, the whole gauge assembly is plugged onto the board and can be released undoing the clips of the base. switch 6th gen tach on v6 circuit board and your good to go
I <3 MY ST214
Smaay
#142
thats exactly what i did, swap the boards
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Lexa666
#143
Good project bro wink.gif
I need more photo smile.gif
Smaay
#144
well i noticed some tapping coming from the engine so in a total of 24 hours, i pulled my engine, swapped the intake manifold over to a complete 3MZ that i have and got it back in the car up and running.

the VVT cams dont like not working like they should be. im using non VVT electronics so the cams are in a locked position.
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Smaay
#145
Here are the results from the dyno today

2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
NOVAKx17
#146
Mmmmmmmm! What a lovely picture!!
You almost make me want a v6 swap instead of turboing just so I can have a newer engine that is n/a and putts up those kind of numbers daily.
awesome work brother
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Smaay
#147
yeah and it will get better gas mileage too
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
NOVAKx17
#148
Well you've had both the 5sfte and v6 now, what do you like better?
Will you be producing a v6 mount kit ?
Ever plan on turboing the 6? And if so what can it handle?
NOVAKx172000 Eclipse GT- DD=== oil pump went blown up and sold1997 Celica ST- swapped and sold2004 Ford explorer xlt 4x4- totaled1997 Celica Convertible GT- Going Topless (;(18:32:21) yarik83: axel has a sensitive wife. i hear she used to be a lesbian and then became ferdi( PARTING OUT A GT COUPEhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=88592)
kurt95gt
#149
You'll only need 1 mount if you stick with the s54.
Well 1 motor mount an a axles mount for s54
E153 you'll need everything you'd need with a 3s but you'll need the 1 motor mount smaay mskes.
It's an amazing feeling driving a v6 wink.gif
95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's94 st hatch my daily driverhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235n
Ted95
#150
nice numbers man, i almost wish i did this swap over the 3s
st205 powered ss3 coupe
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