Malhar95

#1

So with this parts car I have, the guy I got it from said The cv axles were bad that messed up the transition
Basically the car is in neutral. Even when we put it in park or drove it acts like its in neutral.


Any suggestions what it could be?

(when I was picking up the car, the driver side cv was being attempted to take out, like it was out of the hub nut not I pulled it a little bit but it didn't slip out, maybe the clip inside it broken, could that result in the car reacting this way?)
Itd a 98 5sfe auto

This post has been edited by Malhar95: Oct 5, 2012 - 9:50 AM

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Box

#2

Transmission solenoid perhaps.

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Malhar95

#3

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QUOTE (Box @ Sep 9, 2012 - 4:18 AM)

>Transmission solenoid perhaps.

How can I diagnose it? If im not wrog that's a cheap fix rite?

And when i say neutral i mean even when the car is off and in park, if i pukk the e brake down its gonna roll do really in neutral haha

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richee3

#4

I had a 5S auto tranny do that once. Here was the problem.



Result of stupidity and neutral bombing. Yours might not be as serious, as an open diff will send power through the path of least resistance. If an axle pops out of place, that's where the power will go. I find it peculiar that even in park, it still rolls. I can see where it could be either issue.

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Malhar95

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QUOTE (richee3 @ Sep 9, 2012 - 9:53 AM)

>I had a 5S auto tranny do that once. Here was the problem.



Result of stupidity and neutral bombing. Yours might not be as serious, as an open diff will send power through the path of least resistance. If an axle pops out of place, that's where the power will go. I find it peculiar that even in park, it still rolls. I can see where it could be either issue.

But even if one axle pops out (not sure how that would happen but u never know) shouldn't the other side hold it?

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richee3

#6

Not without LSD. An open diff will send power to the missing axle.

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Malhar95

#7

Oh yea lol...so what can I check for?

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Smaay

#8

jack the car up, look behind the engine to see if the passenger axle is mounted to the block on a carrier. if it is, then take the drivers wheel off, and check to see if the drivers axle popped out.

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Malhar95

#9

cv axles are in...
anything else i should check? checked the fluid too btw

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Special_Edy

#10

Yes check the shifter linkage if you havent already.

zfjohnson07

#11

well i found a 96 gt in fort worth for sale for 700 that wont shift out of neutral either, i might buy it !

Malhar95

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QUOTE (zfjohnson07 @ Sep 13, 2012 - 3:34 PM)

>well i found a 96 gt in fort worth for sale for 700 that wont shift out of neutral either, i might buy it !

Clean title? How's te body?


Sorry but what do u mean by shifter linkage (the thing that rotates when u shif get on the tranny?)
Sorry in still learning terms and names lol

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Special_Edy

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QUOTE (Malhar95 @ Sep 13, 2012 - 3:09 PM)

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QUOTE (zfjohnson07 @ Sep 13, 2012 - 3:34 PM)

>well i found a 96 gt in fort worth for sale for 700 that wont shift out of neutral either, i might buy it !

Clean title? How's te body?


Sorry but what do u mean by shifter linkage (the thing that rotates when u shif get on the tranny?)
Sorry in still learning terms and names lol

Yeah, the linkage is what connects the shifter inside the cabin to the transmission. Mine is a manual so I dont know the exact location on a Auto 6gc where it connects to the transmission but it should move some kind of arm on the transmission when you move the shifter inside the cabin.

Malhar95

#14

Yup checked it it's rotating with the gears too...
Torque converter?

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Special_Edy

#15

The torque converter wouldnt make the transmission act like its in neutral when its in park. 90% odds its the axle and you will be back on the road soon

richee3

#16

Silly question, and I'm sure it's the first thing you checked and I've just missed reading it in this thread. Have you checked the trans fluid? An auto tranny with no fluid won't move an inch.

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zfjohnson07

#17

http://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/3268078806.html

Special_Edy

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QUOTE (richee3 @ Sep 13, 2012 - 5:45 PM)

>Silly question, and I'm sure it's the first thing you checked and I've just missed reading it in this thread. Have you checked the trans fluid? An auto tranny with no fluid won't move an inch.

The big thing in this case is that when the car is in park it still rolls like its in neutral. Theres only a few explanations for this. Shifter linkage malfunctioning, axle shaft poped out or there is serious internal damage to the transmission

Malhar95

#19

Okay I was looking at the car again today...dot j ow how I missed it before but the passenger side cv axle is bad.
The boot is completely worn and basically torn off from where the clamp holds.

It's not the side that connects to the wheel, but the side that connects to the trany.


Could this cause the car reacting like such
(I'm going to fix it regardless but until I do curiosity)

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zfjohnson07

#20

dont think so, i bought a 94 that was ripped and still would drive with just one axle

Malhar95

#21

Never mind what I said earlier,
When I was trying to replace it, I realized that the middle boot is pretty much disconnected, so when I'm Tryin to take the but out, its rotating the complete cv. And when I started the car and put it in drive, it's rotatin from the tranny but obviously since its not really connected to the wheels the car doesn't go anywhere.

So now the question is:
What's a way to take the cv out? I can't grip on to the cv with anything can I? The only thing I can think of I'd some big ass vice grips lol

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Special_Edy

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QUOTE (Malhar95 @ Sep 24, 2012 - 10:17 PM)

>Never mind what I said earlier,
When I was trying to replace it, I realized that the middle boot is pretty much disconnected, so when I'm Tryin to take the but out, its rotating the complete cv. And when I started the car and put it in drive, it's rotatin from the tranny but obviously since its not really connected to the wheels the car doesn't go anywhere.

So now the question is:
What's a way to take the cv out? I can't grip on to the cv with anything can I? The only thing I can think of I'd some big ass vice grips lol

Passenger-side or driver-side?

The passenger-side has a carrier bearing that is bolted to the engine block. The two bolts must be removed and the axle will then easily slide out.

The Driver-side has a 'retainer clip' on the splines of the axle that is clipped inside the differential. If you lift the car far enough, maybe 1 to 1 1/2 feet off of the ground you can pry the counterbalance(?) part of the axle shaft against the suspension crossmember with a crowbar. the axle will easily pop out. Alternatively, I used a 1 ton come-along to pull the axle on my celica the first time. I chained one end around the fat part of the axle and the other end around my pickup truck and started winching it out.

Malhar95

#23

It's the passenger side,

Here's a pic

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Special_Edy

#24

Yeah the carrier bearing is bolted to the engine block between that broken boot and the transmission.

Malhar95

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QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Sep 25, 2012 - 9:23 AM)

>Yeah the carrier bearing is bolted to the engine block between that broken boot and the transmission.

Sowill replacing te cv solve the problem?

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Special_Edy

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QUOTE (Malhar95 @ Sep 25, 2012 - 10:33 AM)

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QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Sep 25, 2012 - 9:23 AM)

>Yeah the carrier bearing is bolted to the engine block between that broken boot and the transmission.

Sowill replacing te cv solve the problem?

If the axle is in two pieces it will. The axle needs to be replaced because of the torn boot anyways

Smaay

#27

torn boot does not mean replace axle. the CV might be perfectly fine. just replace the boot

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Malhar95

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QUOTE (Smaay @ Sep 25, 2012 - 5:20 PM)

>torn boot does not mean replace axle. the CV might be perfectly fine. just replace the boot

im pretty sure the complete cv is bad, b/c the bearing (things) arnt connected, looks like the inside is completely broken, i called a tow truck to take it to a transmition shop cuz i figured they're the only ones can can take it off, i cant think of any wat

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Special_Edy

#29

You could of done it in a day or weekend. Too bad your so far away or Id come help.

Malhar95

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QUOTE (Special_Edy @ Sep 25, 2012 - 11:15 PM)

>You could of done it in a day or weekend. Too bad your so far away or Id come help.

How can I do it, everytime I rotate the bolt the complete thing moves..
Lol ill come get u, the amount I'm giving to towin company ill put in a tank of gas haha
If it down that is, at least well find out why exactly is wrong

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