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Nial
#121
Probably as good as anything! It's just that I have a combination of forgetfulness and laziness so would probably not do it, having an inbuilt auto oiler at least helps protect the tools from my neglect if nothing else smile.gif

This is the last and final time I have a go at making a hybrid front bumper, mkIII, hopefully this will live up to my expectations before I use up the worlds supply of excess gt4 & late spec 6gem front bumpers biggrin.gif

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HaysoosKreesto
#122
I literally read every word of this thread and it is absolutely unbelievable!

You now have a fan of your INCREDIBLE work across the pond, or another one I should say smile.gif thumbsup.gif
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Nial
#123
Thanks smile.gif it is always nice to know that someone enjoys my thread and hard work smile.gif Would love to be able to bring the GT4 to the US for a road trip, that would be the ultimate:)

Looks like I will be having to take a little step backward, after giving it some thought I need to do a bit of custom fabrication on the shell, a bit of additional support bars on the front to accommodate oil coolers for the gearbox and power steering, I also need to try to design a new radiator and FMIC set up that will get rid of the stupidly long set up that usually gets used on GT4s. Of course custom fabrication means that the painting will have to stop until the fab is complete so I can repaint everything at once.......gotta stop that rust from ever coming back smile.gif

Trying to design a suitable FMIC has been a nightmare, spent an hour just staring at the from of the car today trying to come up with a solution, those designers at Toyota sure didn't have a FMIC in mind when they designed the structure of the GT4.

This post has been edited by Nial: Jul 27, 2014 - 2:35 PM
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Langing
#124
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QUOTE (Nial @ Jul 27, 2014 - 3:22 PM) *
>Thanks smile.gif it is always nice to know that someone enjoys my thread and hard work smile.gif Would love to be able to bring the GT4 to the US for a road trip, that would be the ultimate:)

Looks like I will be having to take a little step backward, after giving it some thought I need to do a bit of custom fabrication on the shell, a bit of additional support bars on the front to accommodate oil coolers for the gearbox and power steering, I also need to try to design a new radiator and FMIC set up that will get rid of the stupidly long set up that usually gets used on GT4s. Of course custom fabrication means that the painting will have to stop until the fab is complete so I can repaint everything at once.......gotta stop that rust from ever coming back smile.gif

Trying to design a suitable FMIC has been a nightmare, spent an hour just staring at the from of the car today trying to come up with a solution, those designers at Toyota sure didn't have a FMIC in mind when they designed the structure of the GT4.


On Wikipedia I found this:

"Cars such as the Subaru Impreza WRX, MINI Cooper S, Toyota Celica GT-Four, Nissan Pulsar GTI-R, Mazdaspeed3, Mazdaspeed6, and the PSA Peugeot Citroën turbo diesels, use air-to-air top mounted intercoolers (TMIC) located on top of the engine. Air is directed through the intercooler through the use of a hood scoop."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercooler
Nial
#125
The 185 uses what is basically a FMIC mounted on top of the engine......they are hopeless, suffer badly from heat soak and are generally not very good.
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Langing
#126
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QUOTE (Nial @ Jul 27, 2014 - 4:32 PM) *
>The 185 uses what is basically a FMIC mounted on top of the engine......they are hopeless, suffer badly from heat soak and are generally not very good.


ST205/185 are Toyota frame design designations for the GT-4? If so, was the 205 an improvement over the 185? Is there more room in the engine compartment of your 205? What years were they produced?

My Celica is an ST Coup (94), and my frame is AT200. That's also my frame of reference as I'm trying to imagine your predicament and I think I'm having as bad a time doing that as you in figuring out how to squeeze ten pounds of stuff into a nine pound bag, volumetrically speaking.

I'm wishing you the best of luck because I don't want this thread to stop. smile.gif
njccmd2002
#127
The difference is like the diference between the 93 celica and the 96 celica..
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Smaay
#128
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QUOTE (Langing @ Jul 27, 2014 - 5:08 PM) *
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QUOTE (Nial @ Jul 27, 2014 - 4:32 PM) *
>The 185 uses what is basically a FMIC mounted on top of the engine......they are hopeless, suffer badly from heat soak and are generally not very good.


ST205/185 are Toyota frame design designations for the GT-4? If so, was the 205 an improvement over the 185? Is there more room in the engine compartment of your 205? What years were they produced?

My Celica is an ST Coup (94), and my frame is AT200. That's also my frame of reference as I'm trying to imagine your predicament and I think I'm having as bad a time doing that as you in figuring out how to squeeze ten pounds of stuff into a nine pound bag, volumetrically speaking.

I'm wishing you the best of luck because I don't want this thread to stop. smile.gif


the ST205 is an improvement over the 185 in all aspects
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Langing
#129
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Jul 28, 2014 - 12:00 AM) *
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QUOTE (Langing @ Jul 27, 2014 - 5:08 PM) *
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QUOTE (Nial @ Jul 27, 2014 - 4:32 PM) *
>The 185 uses what is basically a FMIC mounted on top of the engine......they are hopeless, suffer badly from heat soak and are generally not very good.


ST205/185 are Toyota frame design designations for the GT-4? If so, was the 205 an improvement over the 185? Is there more room in the engine compartment of your 205? What years were they produced?

My Celica is an ST Coup (94), and my frame is AT200. That's also my frame of reference as I'm trying to imagine your predicament and I think I'm having as bad a time doing that as you in figuring out how to squeeze ten pounds of stuff into a nine pound bag, volumetrically speaking.

I'm wishing you the best of luck because I don't want this thread to stop. smile.gif


the ST205 is an improvement over the 185 in all aspects


IYO, Will Nial have enough space?
Nial
#130
Finally got this glued together, if you want to have a go yourself, this is how I did it.

Once you have cut the two halves of the bumper and matched them up you need to start by drilling a series of holes about an inch from the join about three or four inches apart.

I then zip tied the two ends together and then started zip tying towards the middle, as I went I put the wire mesh on the back

The front



The back before the glue is applied



And with the glue applied and pressed into all the mesh and holes





There is more to do but I need to let the glue fully cure overnight at least. I will then add a bit more glue into the bits I missed and fill in any holes in the join.

A bit of scratch fabrication today, it's still a bit rough and needs finishing off, but it's a...........well, can you guess what it is :confuse: :confuse: :confuse:

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JoshuaM
#131
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QUOTE (Nial @ Aug 3, 2014 - 11:34 AM) *
>A bit of scratch fabrication today, it's still a bit rough and needs finishing off, but it's a...........well, can you guess what it is :confuse: :confuse: :confuse:



Short answer... no tongue.gif My guesses would be cooling duct for something, but very narrow, or replacement support for something with room to run small pipes around.

Nice work on the bumper too, hopefully it finishes up well for you this time smile.gif
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Nial
#132
Nearly finished

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Nial
#133
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QUOTE (JoshuaM @ Aug 3, 2014 - 12:02 PM) *
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QUOTE (Nial @ Aug 3, 2014 - 11:34 AM) *
>A bit of scratch fabrication today, it's still a bit rough and needs finishing off, but it's a...........well, can you guess what it is :confuse: :confuse: :confuse:



Short answer... no tongue.gif My guesses would be cooling duct for something, but very narrow, or replacement support for something with room to run small pipes around.

Nice work on the bumper too, hopefully it finishes up well for you this time smile.gif


A support is a pretty spot on guess, it's going to go right behind the bonnet catch, mounted vertically it will hold two oil coolers smile.gif



Started putting stuff together now, just a question....what grade of threadlock to use on the rear diff bolts.....remembering that the rear diff plate is alloy

This post has been edited by Nial: Aug 8, 2014 - 11:17 AM
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richee3
#134
There's nothing in this thread that falls short of excellent. When it's finished, this will be by far one of the cleanest T20's in the world. thumbsup.gif
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enderswift
#135
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Aug 8, 2014 - 1:06 PM) *
>There's nothing in this thread that falls short of excellent. When it's finished, this will be by far one of the cleanest T20's in the world. thumbsup.gif


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Smaay
#136
loctite blue will work just fine
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
mandrek
#137
WOW!!! looking great!!!!

and great job on that front end!!! i just got all of my parts together to do the EXACT same setup on the front end (rail vents and all) though i suspect that my grafting will be a bit more dificult as i just got a cut out with the bump-up and the vents... but OH DAMN!!!! awesome!!!
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Nial
#138
Hub tastic thumbsup.gif



Brand new backing plates that I have painted to give extra protection thumbsup.gif just need to get the bearings pressed in now then I can start putting the suspension back together :clap:
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Nial
#139
More from allenchrome electroplating, sadly the one part from Toyota, the drive shaft damper, cost more than double the cost of the elctroplating :? Oh well, thems the breaks.

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Batman722
#140
You should have made your own dampener smile.gif

Things look great !
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
enderswift
#141
Pressing in bearings and hubs without damaging the dust shields is an enormous pita.
Nial
#142
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Aug 29, 2014 - 9:31 AM) *
>You should have made your own dampener smile.gif

Things look great !


Thanks smile.gif

I should have, but to be honest it's a lot easier to just buy one. Too busy fabricating annoying little parts at the moment to hold on various coolers and the FMIC which I hate doing.

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QUOTE (enderswift @ Aug 29, 2014 - 10:41 AM) *
>Pressing in bearings and hubs without damaging the dust shields is an enormous pita.


Yes you are probably right, which is why I am going to get someone else to do it biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by Nial: Aug 29, 2014 - 10:34 AM
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Nial
#143
A bit of minor fabrication, the centre beam copying of treadles car for mounting oil coolers, the two (yet to be welded) fron supports for the FMIC, I hope they are long enough as I had to guess the size and position.



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Nial
#144
This has to be a first.......Can't decide if I like it or not, a GT4 letterbox vent on the back bumper.

:clap:

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kurt95gt
#145
This build is insane
Love every bit of it!
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Nial
#146
Cheers Kurt smile.gif every step is a step closer to getting it finished.

Ordered paint, undercoat and stone guard yesterday to get the colour put on the bottom so I can start putting things together. Also ordered a deatschworks DW300 fuel pump, that should cover all fuel needs smile.gif although it was more difficult finding one in the UK than I thought, the only Deatschworks pump I could find in the UK was from an Evo 8 so I will have to make it fit.....shouldn't be a problem though.

This post has been edited by Nial: Sep 5, 2014 - 1:22 PM
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Batman722
#147
The vent seems to be in the wrong bumper smile.gif

Seems a bit pointless but with everything else you have done you're allowed smile.gif
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
Nial
#148
Thanks smile.gif smile.gif

Oh it is pure pointlessness, biggrin.gif I wanted to see what it would look like, break up the back bumper a little bit, nothing beyond aesthetics.
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Tigawoods
#149
it could reduce drag! but you have a big ol gas tank right there so I doubt much air gets there haha

i cant wait to see it on!
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Nial
#150
Guess what I will be learning to do next.........


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