Sounds like if it's not a tune issue you might need to check some stuff out. Check for power to the coil when cranking between ground and the power wire at the coil and check for pulsing ground between B+ and the other coil wire while cranking so you can see if it's a loss on the power side of the circuit like from the ignition system or a loss on the control side of the circuit like the ignition module or whatever is running your coil now.
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
turns out one of the wires to the distributor got cut, so i patched it up real quick with a butt connector. Got spark now. Still won't start. sumbitch....
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
Is it just super flooded? Dry the plugs and cylinders with brake cleaner and compressed air and put a little oil down the cylinders and bump the starter to spread the oil. That'll bring compression back up and make it easier to start.
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
Anyone ever have issues with the car sending power to the ECU after pulling the EFI Main relay? Had a tough time pulling the relay out by hand and ended up shimmying it out with a couple of flatheads. Now the sumbitch don't wanna power on unless I run a jumper pin. Thinking I may've fudged the relay when I pulled it. Then I bought a relay from O'Reilly's and that's not working either, so maybe the connection in the fuse box got fudged, too. Haven't dug into it yet.
Anywho, Tried to set timing on the motor to 0 and checked that the Link standalone had timing set to 0. Still no start.
ECU isn't seeing oil or fuel pressure for whatever reason. Maybe the ECU is set default to not start when it shows 0 pressure.
Uuhhh....even after cranking the motor a billion times over, I noticed that oil isn't pouring out of the turbo feed line or where the oil pressure sensor is on the head. Not too familiar with these motors to know if that's normal. I'd assume i'd get some kind of dribble coming out of either spot.
Other than that, towed the car home since the Supra is in the shop for some transmission work giving me space in my 1-car garage. Assuming work doesn't call me for something stupid, should be able to get some more time this weekend to diddle with it.
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
any luck? have not followed up on here in a while, cool to see your still working on the celica. i went for a little roadtrip in mine last week before i parked it again. i've got a bunch of third gen parts here and prolly a bunch over at mikes place if ya need to swap something in to troubleshoot.
goodluck
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nothing yet. i pulled the pan off to check the oil pump from where the pick-up attaches and it's dry, so I'll need to test the gear on the pump to see if it actually works. Right now, just fighting the power steering pump so i can drop it to pull the belt off so i can get the crank pulley off. I'll try to tackle it in the morning.
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
After a year of waiting and some heart break, my wheels finally landed stateside and should be here on Tuesday....car's still not running...
Took me a while to get to pulling the timing belt off with the engine still in the car. Kinda don't wanna do that again....
Gonna take a look at the oil pump over the weekend to see what's up and then probably burn the car down.
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
So these came in today....



I was expecting this to be a shiny black finish, but it ended up being a chrome finish with a black body, so not bad for their RBC finish.
This post has been edited by NgoFcukinWay: Oct 5, 2020 - 10:28 PM
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
UGH.
They look so good!
17s?
~bloodMoney
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QUOTE (bloodMoney @ Oct 6, 2020 - 7:41 AM)

>UGH.
They look so good!
17s?
Yes, siirrrrr.
17x9 +38 front
17x9 +22 rear
5x114
Following Ken's set-up, but I think he went with 57DRs.
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
No Sakura Pink no care.
I've always had a soft spot for their wheels.
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
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QUOTE (Bitter @ Oct 6, 2020 - 6:33 PM)

>No Sakura Pink no care.
I've always had a soft spot for their wheels.
That's the color I wanted, but I got in too late. When I ordered, Rays was getting ready to discontinue the color unless they got enough orders in. Sadly, they didn't get enough, but had just released this finish when I received the bad news about the pink. Settled for this one. To be honest, I'm ok with the color and not really all THAT excited for it because I really had my heart set on the Sakura Pink wheels.

On another note, instead of fiddling with the oil pump today, I went to clean out the storage shed in the backyard and went ahead with replacing the brakes on the car to clear up space in the shed. So much rust...
Tomorrow, I'm off to Vegas for Supras In Vegas. When I get back, I'll wrap up the last corner for the brakes and then take the oil pump off since it's the same corner.
This post has been edited by NgoFcukinWay: Oct 7, 2020 - 12:13 AM
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
It's still gonna look awesome, you can just get a giant cringey hello kitty with titties vinyl wrap instead.
Hey, sometimes I gotta stop my project, clean my area, then go back to it another day because it gets too cluttered up around the car to work efficiently and safely.
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
'97 ST\ Eibach \ KYB \ Kenwood \ Alpine \ Cusco \ OEM+[sold 10/18]'93 MX-5LE
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
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QUOTE (Bitter @ Oct 7, 2020 - 8:15 AM)

>It's still gonna look awesome, you can just get a giant cringey hello kitty with titties vinyl wrap instead.
Hey, sometimes I gotta stop my project, clean my area, then go back to it another day because it gets too cluttered up around the car to work efficiently and safely.
Don't tempt me with a good time. lol
Seen a Supra with a Hello Kitty sunshade while I was in Vegas and I'm tempted to get something similar myself. lol
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
I have minion eyes sun shades in my daily driver, but they don't fit the right way they fit side ways so my car looks super high and stressed out when I park it. I keep a duplicate set in the Celica. I also have a penguin seat cover for the passenger side in the car that I sometimes use.
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
I pulled the oil pump off tonight and that hoe is bone dry. I oiled up the gear housing like the BP oil spill and turned the gear with a 1400ft-lb impact at full tilt and I can see it puking up the oil from one side to the other.
Not sure why the oil pump isn't picking up oil from the pan like a $2 hooker on Christmas day.
I left some oil in the pump to see if it'll help prime the pump to pull some kind of vacuum or something and slapped it back on the block with some duct tape. I'll dump a couple of quarts of oil into the motor later and turn the gear with a hamster wheel to see if that helps.
until then, back to Among Us cuz someone is looking a little sus over there in the electrical room....
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
Should you drop the oil pan and check the oil pickup screen for blockage or the pan for poor clearance to the oil pickup?
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
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QUOTE (Bitter @ Oct 17, 2020 - 5:37 PM)

>Should you drop the oil pan and check the oil pickup screen for blockage or the pan for poor clearance to the oil pickup?
did that a while ago and the pick up is clean. pan is undamaged, so there shouldn't be clearance issues. I think i'll order a new pick-up gasket from toyota and see if that fixes things.
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
The old school trick is to prime the pump with thick assembly lube oil or just thick (20W-50) engine oil and pre-fill the filter then cross your fingers it all works right. Usually if the pump isn't sucking there's a reason, like worn pump or excessive pump clearances that's causing low suction and it'll still be a problem once it's running and hot.
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
WE HAVE OIL PRESSURE!!
I've no idea what the **** it was that I did, but oil is flowing again. Essentially primed the pump with oil to test how the gear is working, slapped it on the block, ugga dugga the oil pick up to the pump, slapped the oil pan on, filled with break-in oil, disconnected the turbo oil feed line, and spun the oil pump gear and it started to bleed out. Plugged that line back and then pulled off the oil pressure gauge and spun the gear again to confirm. Oil bled out of there as well as did the oil filter.
Now I just gotta put this **** all back together again. I am not looking forward to that.
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
Finally, someone with some good news!
2000 Celica GTS 'slowest gts evar'1998 Mazda 626 FS-DE/CD4-E
SitRep: Oil pan is officially resealed and bolted back to the block. Filled the motor with some Amsoil Engine Break-in oil and tested the pump again just to ensure it wasn't a fluke when I tested it before. Currently fighting the timing belt to get it back on, but I think I've picked up a trick to get it on based on some videos i've seen.
I guess tune in tomorrow to see what happens.
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
Ok. got the timing belt on and now to put everything else back on....
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
So.... Is is running yet?
~bloodMoney
*1997 Celica ST - 3SGE Greytop BEAMS*1977 Celica RA29 - Classic Cruiser*2005 Matrix AWD - dedded but still hanging around like a ghost2019 Rav4 XLE Premium - Sports mode is fun.
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....
got lazy yesterday and didn't do anything except binge season 7 of Agents of SHIELD.
Today, put some time into the car and got the lower timing cover on along with the AC belt and the motor mount. Just need to tighten down the tensioner for the power steering pump and I think I can attempt to start the car again...maybe...
-Alex {](O_o)[}1993.5 Toyota Supra....with stuff........sorta broken....1998 Toyota Celica....this one, too, has stuff........broken....yeah...definitely broken....