yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
54 trim...hmmm...never heard of it. I have heard very good things about innovative turbos.
I believe that the injectors will be maxed out at about 380-390hp at the flywheel. At the wheels, you are looking at more like 340-350 max. Take into consideration a 10% safety factor for injector duty cycle, you are looking at 320whp. You may want to consider larger injectors. Don't believe that crap about not being able to get 720's or 850's to idle properly with an EMS. Although, I don't know much about the SDS unit.
This post has been edited by jgreening: Nov 4, 2005 - 1:55 PM
I believe that the injectors will be maxed out at about 380-390hp at the flywheel. At the wheels, you are looking at more like 340-350 max. Take into consideration a 10% safety factor for injector duty cycle, you are looking at 320whp. You may want to consider larger injectors. Don't believe that crap about not being able to get 720's or 850's to idle properly with an EMS. Although, I don't know much about the SDS unit.
This post has been edited by jgreening: Nov 4, 2005 - 1:55 PM
QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
Good luck...keep the size of the injectors in mind as you tune.
QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
-jgreening+Nov 4, 2005 - 12:13 PM
thanks i will the shop is going to bring along a set of 65 lb ones just in case i want to switch out but i want to see what the 55 can do
i want to keep atleast 25 mpg on the highway
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Good luck...keep the size of the injectors in mind as you tune.
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thanks i will the shop is going to bring along a set of 65 lb ones just in case i want to switch out but i want to see what the 55 can do
i want to keep atleast 25 mpg on the highway
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
How laggy do you think that turbo will be? In particular, at what RPM do you predict you will cross 200 ft / lbs?
QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
-jgreening+Nov 4, 2005 - 1:00 PM
my new red line is 8500 rpm so the 200 ft/lbs probably around 3800-4800 im guessing i'm really not sure because i havent seen many 7agte dyno charts most of the power should be above 4300-4500rpm i going to install a rev limit to a switch to rev limit at 4500 or so when i'm driving around town to save on gas and not run through the gears real fast which i know will happen once the turbo kicks in
QUOTE(jgreening @ Nov 4, 2005 - 1:00 PM)
How laggy do you think that turbo will be? In particular, at what RPM do you predict you will cross 200 ft / lbs?
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my new red line is 8500 rpm so the 200 ft/lbs probably around 3800-4800 im guessing i'm really not sure because i havent seen many 7agte dyno charts most of the power should be above 4300-4500rpm i going to install a rev limit to a switch to rev limit at 4500 or so when i'm driving around town to save on gas and not run through the gears real fast which i know will happen once the turbo kicks in
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-nik+Nov 4, 2005 - 3:53 PM
Rev limit switch? Why not just shift earlier? There is alot of modulation you can do with your right foot to prevent going through the gears too fast or getting into positive manifold pressure - especially with your set-up. Shoot, I can prevent the ct-26 from boosting while driving almost normally if I want.
As for your prediction regarding spool, I think you might be a little low.
By way of comparison, a 50 trim T3/T4 on a stock 3sgte head hits 200 ft/lbs at about 4500. Three factors suggest the spool of your set-up will be later: (1) .2 liters of less displacement; (2) HUGE cams; and (3) larger turbo. I will predict 200 ft/lbs at 5100. Properly tuned, this thing should hit like a truck and be wicked once boost kicks in.
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-jgreening+Nov 4, 2005 - 1:00 PM
my new red line is 8500 rpm so the 200 ft/lbs probably around 3800-4800 im guessing i'm really not sure because i havent seen many 7agte dyno charts most of the power should be above 4300-4500rpm i going to install a rev limit to a switch to rev limit at 4500 or so when i'm driving around town to save on gas and not run through the gears real fast which i know will happen once the turbo kicks in
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Nov 4, 2005 - 1:00 PM)
How laggy do you think that turbo will be? In particular, at what RPM do you predict you will cross 200 ft / lbs?
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my new red line is 8500 rpm so the 200 ft/lbs probably around 3800-4800 im guessing i'm really not sure because i havent seen many 7agte dyno charts most of the power should be above 4300-4500rpm i going to install a rev limit to a switch to rev limit at 4500 or so when i'm driving around town to save on gas and not run through the gears real fast which i know will happen once the turbo kicks in
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Rev limit switch? Why not just shift earlier? There is alot of modulation you can do with your right foot to prevent going through the gears too fast or getting into positive manifold pressure - especially with your set-up. Shoot, I can prevent the ct-26 from boosting while driving almost normally if I want.
As for your prediction regarding spool, I think you might be a little low.
By way of comparison, a 50 trim T3/T4 on a stock 3sgte head hits 200 ft/lbs at about 4500. Three factors suggest the spool of your set-up will be later: (1) .2 liters of less displacement; (2) HUGE cams; and (3) larger turbo. I will predict 200 ft/lbs at 5100. Properly tuned, this thing should hit like a truck and be wicked once boost kicks in.
QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
-jgreening+Nov 4, 2005 - 2:12 PM
Rev limit switch? Why not just shift earlier? There is alot of modulation you can do with your right foot to prevent going through the gears too fast or getting into positive manifold pressure - especially with your set-up. Shoot, I can prevent the ct-26 from boosting while driving almost normally if I want.
As for your prediction regarding spool, I think you might be a little low.
By way of comparison, a 50 trim T3/T4 on a stock 3sgte head hits 200 ft/lbs at about 4500. Three factors suggest the spool of your set-up will be later: (1) .2 liters of less displacement; (2) HUGE cams; and (3) larger turbo. I will predict 200 ft/lbs at 5100. Properly tuned, this thing should hit like a truck and be wicked once boost kicks in.
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on my old 7afte i did shift early to stay out of boost it help on the gas mileage. Once i get my car back i'll have to relearn how to drive again shouldnt take to long maybe a hour or so
as for the spooling your prediction sound pretty close to what it should be this be interesting to see how it turns out on the dyno with all the things that have been done to it and the chose of using the small port intake manifold over the large port to get some better low and mid range power the cams will be the hardest to dail in right looks like atleast a few hours of dyno time and many pulls to get it all right.but once i get it i be posting the charts up here asap
QUOTE(jgreening @ Nov 4, 2005 - 2:12 PM)
Rev limit switch? Why not just shift earlier? There is alot of modulation you can do with your right foot to prevent going through the gears too fast or getting into positive manifold pressure - especially with your set-up. Shoot, I can prevent the ct-26 from boosting while driving almost normally if I want.
As for your prediction regarding spool, I think you might be a little low.
By way of comparison, a 50 trim T3/T4 on a stock 3sgte head hits 200 ft/lbs at about 4500. Three factors suggest the spool of your set-up will be later: (1) .2 liters of less displacement; (2) HUGE cams; and (3) larger turbo. I will predict 200 ft/lbs at 5100. Properly tuned, this thing should hit like a truck and be wicked once boost kicks in.
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on my old 7afte i did shift early to stay out of boost it help on the gas mileage. Once i get my car back i'll have to relearn how to drive again shouldnt take to long maybe a hour or so
as for the spooling your prediction sound pretty close to what it should be this be interesting to see how it turns out on the dyno with all the things that have been done to it and the chose of using the small port intake manifold over the large port to get some better low and mid range power the cams will be the hardest to dail in right looks like atleast a few hours of dyno time and many pulls to get it all right.but once i get it i be posting the charts up here asap
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
more pics tonight
update 10/31/05
i took these last friday sorry for the pic Quality i had take pics with my phone because i forgot my digital camra
update 10/31/05
i took these last friday sorry for the pic Quality i had take pics with my phone because i forgot my digital camra
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
got to love those cam gears and the clocked turbo !
15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
thanks guys last thing the shop told which was friday is that the motor is in the car and and have started on the sds wiring and intercooler custom piping.
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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NEW PICS from Wednesday of last week
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If I drive out to Idaho can I have a ride?
If I drive out to Idaho can I have a ride?
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NEW PICS from Wednesday of last week
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
yeah i need to unclutter the bay and remove all that wire loom
This post has been edited by nik: Nov 14, 2005 - 3:47 PM
This post has been edited by nik: Nov 14, 2005 - 3:47 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
ok here are a few more
look at that big turbo
oil cooler ready for the braided lines
intercooler mounted and fills the hole opening
the turbo will get a wedge adpter to swing the turbo toward the radiator also the rad will get replaced with a koyo one
cars almost done
nice side shot
look at that big turbo
oil cooler ready for the braided lines
intercooler mounted and fills the hole opening
the turbo will get a wedge adpter to swing the turbo toward the radiator also the rad will get replaced with a koyo one
cars almost done
nice side shot
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
I think that's probly the nicest built engine i've ever seen in a celica..... including 3s-gte's ... even air-to-water intercooled RC motors...... they dont have anything on that 7a-gte. Im in awe. Truly impressive ... i give it two thumbs way up ... and madd props
nice to see that the 7agte is pretty much done.
Nik, when does she get fired up?
QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
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well i'm going to check on here thursday or friday i'm sure she'll have her piping done and hopefully all the sds and msd digi 7 stuff all done i hope in the next week or so to have her fired up i'm going to take video of the firing up but then there trailing her to the dyno to tune her after that
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Nik, when does she get fired up?
Nik, when does she get fired up?
well i'm going to check on here thursday or friday i'm sure she'll have her piping done and hopefully all the sds and msd digi 7 stuff all done i hope in the next week or so to have her fired up i'm going to take video of the firing up but then there trailing her to the dyno to tune her after that
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
went there yesterday looks like 80-90% of the sds is wiried up the intake is down they put a ford TB on 70 mm i have pics i'll try and get them up today. the intake manifold and turbo housing and valve covers will get paint /polished at the end of the project its getting there slowly im going back in on friday to check on them and the car so it gets done then i'll drive a little and put her in the garage for the winter and start my little projects on her
This post has been edited by nik: Dec 6, 2005 - 12:00 PM
This post has been edited by nik: Dec 6, 2005 - 12:00 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
i'll have some pics up today about 6 pm PST
the custom made sand which is for the remote oil filter and cooler is done the oils cooler is hung where the windsheild washer bottle use to be the sds coils are custom mounted on top of the tranny the digi 7 is getting mounted right now there wait on the koyo rad to come in hopefull monday or tuesday to finish the water lines having a custom billet plate made to cover the wires so just need to finiah a bunch of little things now and its done im guessing 2 more weeks at the most hopefully
the custom made sand which is for the remote oil filter and cooler is done the oils cooler is hung where the windsheild washer bottle use to be the sds coils are custom mounted on top of the tranny the digi 7 is getting mounted right now there wait on the koyo rad to come in hopefull monday or tuesday to finish the water lines having a custom billet plate made to cover the wires so just need to finiah a bunch of little things now and its done im guessing 2 more weeks at the most hopefully
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
here is a few but there about aweek old form the 12/05/05
i cant wait to finish this project
nice ford 70mm TB almost done
the coils are custom mounted above the tranny now this is an old pic
i cant wait to finish this project
nice ford 70mm TB almost done
the coils are custom mounted above the tranny now this is an old pic
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
went to the shop yesterday to drop off a bracket and took pics with my phone sorry about the blur
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
Ok alot work has been done the wiring is mostly done the koyo rad is in. Most of the custom stuff is done piping showed up today for the intercooler.Its looking like start up at the end of next week i took about 20+ pics with digi stupid thing eat 4 batterys put got all the pics i'll have them up this weekend
This post has been edited by nik: Dec 16, 2005 - 4:09 PM
This post has been edited by nik: Dec 16, 2005 - 4:09 PM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
ok i took this last friday
sds coil pack custom mounted on the tranny far right aeromotive fuel filter
koyo radiator a little custom work will be needed because of the wastegate being close to the neck
intake manifold and all the other little goodies
greddy catch can custom mount to intake mani
custom oil sandwich
end of the hugh oil cooler
This post has been edited by nik: Dec 19, 2005 - 11:13 AM
sds coil pack custom mounted on the tranny far right aeromotive fuel filter
koyo radiator a little custom work will be needed because of the wastegate being close to the neck
intake manifold and all the other little goodies
greddy catch can custom mount to intake mani
custom oil sandwich
end of the hugh oil cooler
This post has been edited by nik: Dec 19, 2005 - 11:13 AM
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
nice nik very nice
i dont see the water pump is left side ?
you remove the distributor ignition?
i dont see the water pump is left side ?
you remove the distributor ignition?
My CELICA
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the pump is under the intake manifold look back a few pages and you should see it
billet plug was made for the old distribtor spot im running an SDS standalone 4 individal coils pre plug and magnet on the crank pulley look in the first pic and you'll see the coils on top of the tranny
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that is some great stuff there. Great progress
that is some great stuff there. Great progress >
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mmmmmmmm i'm turned on soooo much right now
mmmmmmmm i'm turned on soooo much right now
you scare me sometimes dan
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YUMMY
yeah thats right...i said yummy.
YUMMY
yeah thats right...i said yummy.
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nice nik very nice
i dont see the water pump is left side ?
you remove the distributor ignition?
nice nik very nice
i dont see the water pump is left side ?
you remove the distributor ignition?
the pump is under the intake manifold look back a few pages and you should see it
billet plug was made for the old distribtor spot im running an SDS standalone 4 individal coils pre plug and magnet on the crank pulley look in the first pic and you'll see the coils on top of the tranny
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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i'm hoping before christmas your pretty close
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its about 6 on a 1-10 scale the motor will be at about 8.5 still have a few more things to do
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when will this thing be started up????..... im gonna cream myself upon first site of vids
when will this thing be started up????..... im gonna cream myself upon first site of vids
i'm hoping before christmas your pretty close
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Why does your car have to be so awesome...
Why does your car have to be so awesome...
its about 6 on a 1-10 scale the motor will be at about 8.5 still have a few more things to do
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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things i want to do to get close to a 10/10 car
exterior= still needs a cf hatch and a few other tasteful cf parts new paint want so volks gtc 18x8 with toyo tires a few things molded
some lambo doors maybe way down the road full CF doors and lighten the car more
interior= totally redone full chromoly cage gauges seats recarpet cf encloser system in back
suspension= cusco pillow mounts ss tein coilovers with edfc controler sway bars front and back tower bars front and back body brace engine cage/braces
than and few rare items
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Man you gotta be kidding nik. I think your exterior is a 8 out of 10, and your motor would be about a 12.7 out of 10 for me. Props for all the work and I can't wait for MORE updates and future plans.
Man you gotta be kidding nik. I think your exterior is a 8 out of 10, and your motor would be about a 12.7 out of 10 for me. Props for all the work and I can't wait for MORE updates and future plans.
things i want to do to get close to a 10/10 car
exterior= still needs a cf hatch and a few other tasteful cf parts new paint want so volks gtc 18x8 with toyo tires a few things molded
some lambo doors maybe way down the road full CF doors and lighten the car more
interior= totally redone full chromoly cage gauges seats recarpet cf encloser system in back
suspension= cusco pillow mounts ss tein coilovers with edfc controler sway bars front and back tower bars front and back body brace engine cage/braces
than and few rare items
yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
looks good nik, one thing though, why did they decide to mount the coil pack to the tranny?
94' ST Coupe - 5sfe Motor swap and brake swap.