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Topic #21831 309 posts Started by nik
he he >biggrin.gif>

here somemore pics the puater custom rods they just got back from balancing and as of 1:30 PST the bottom end is starting to go together >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif>
and a stock rod for reference doggy pm me

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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
Love the rods, I need them !!!!! >tongue.gif> Do you have a part number from pauter ? Can't waiting to see the numbers of this engine !

Claude
Nik - i love you >wink.gif>

Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...Full custom Projects from restoration to performance builds<<<<<< DCw / JDMart >>>>>>>
I am told that oil squirters are great on some of the 4ag blocks. any way to outfit the 7a with them?

Nice rods... I got one of my own while looking at the pics. >wink.gif>
Them's is some nice lookin rods... ;]

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
sowa.. ignition wise, I am ignorant. What is the advantage of running distributorless?
Acurancy.

Less resistance in wires and lots of other advantages....... >wink.gif>



-FallenHero+May 29, 2005 - 2:54 PM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ May 29, 2005 - 2:54 PM)
sowa.. ignition wise, I am ignorant.  What is the advantage of running distributorless?
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Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...Full custom Projects from restoration to performance builds<<<<<< DCw / JDMart >>>>>>>
So I have seen the megasquirt guys using the dual coil set up with the EDIS. I've also seen one blacktop guy run four individual coils. That would be nice, I am sure, but how much equipment would be needed?

>heads to club 4ag for tech info

This post has been edited by FallenHero: May 29, 2005 - 6:34 PM
Nik, have you tried lining the B series manifold up the an FE head? I know the GE and FE heads are a little different, will what you did with the manifold work on the FE heads as well?

By the way I have a silvertop here that's going into an AE92 and will be running megasquirt with EDIS ignition, if you guys are interested I'll keep you updated as the project starts.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: May 29, 2005 - 10:47 PM

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
he purchased a 4age header flange and welded it in place of the B-seriese header flange. You could easily do the same with a f series header flange.


Have you guys seen this?

http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=106907

This post has been edited by FallenHero: May 29, 2005 - 11:16 PM
-FallenHero+May 30, 2005 - 4:04 AM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ May 30, 2005 - 4:04 AM)
he purchased a 4age header flange and welded it in place of the B-seriese header flange.  You could easily do the same with a f series header flange.


Have you guys seen this?

http://forums.club4ag.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=106907
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Yes but is the spacing of the ports pretty much the same?

That's a NICE setup!

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
sorry guys right after i posted those rod pics i left for a little vaction but im back now

-FallenHero+May 29, 2005 - 4:33 PM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ May 29, 2005 - 4:33 PM)
So I have seen the megasquirt guys using the dual coil set up with the EDIS.  I've also seen one blacktop guy run four individual coils.  That would be nice, I am sure, but how much equipment would be needed?

>heads to club 4ag for tech info
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Yeah with the SDS system i'm running 4 coils >biggrin.gif>

-Dr_Tweak+May 29, 2005 - 8:46 PM
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ May 29, 2005 - 8:46 PM)
Nik, have you tried lining the B series manifold up the an FE head? I know the GE and FE heads are a little different, will what you did with the manifold work on the FE heads as well?

By the way I have a silvertop here that's going into an AE92 and will be running megasquirt with EDIS ignition, if you guys are interested I'll keep you updated as the project starts.

-Doc
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i dont know it should be work i bought the manifold and flange and lined them up it was 98% there so cut off the oval section and weld and bam new header >wink.gif>

-doGGy+May 30, 2005 - 10:50 AM
QUOTE(doGGy @ May 30, 2005 - 10:50 AM)
NIK WHERE ARE YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU GOT PM!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I PM YOU BACK!!!!!! >biggrin.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
yo, post up the specs on the size of those rods!
-FallenHero+May 31, 2005 - 10:04 AM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ May 31, 2005 - 10:04 AM)
yo, post up the specs on the size of those rods!
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i'll try my best to get both the stock and puater specs up

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
One thing I should ask. Is that a 7AFE head gasket or 4AG? It looks a bit different, cause usually 4AG head gaskets have openings for the two large coolant passages on the back of the block. Just curious...

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-Kwanza26+Jun 1, 2005 - 1:27 AM
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jun 1, 2005 - 1:27 AM)
One thing I should ask.  Is that a 7AFE head gasket or 4AG?  It looks a bit different, cause usually 4AG head gaskets have openings for the two large coolant passages on the back of the block.  Just curious...
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its the 7afe gasket

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-nik+Jun 1, 2005 - 1:54 PM
QUOTE(nik @ Jun 1, 2005 - 1:54 PM)
-Kwanza26+Jun 1, 2005 - 1:27 AM
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jun 1, 2005 - 1:27 AM)
One thing I should ask.  Is that a 7AFE head gasket or 4AG?  It looks a bit different, cause usually 4AG head gaskets have openings for the two large coolant passages on the back of the block.  Just curious...
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its the 7afe gasket
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I would then suggest you get a 4AG gasket instead. The reason those coolant ports are blocked off on the 7AFE is because the 7AFE flows water differently than the 4AG...

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
the coolent ports at the bottom of this pick

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This post has been edited by nik: Jun 1, 2005 - 10:57 AM

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
yeah springs and retainers are in >biggrin.gif> the top end is going together and soon will be mated to the bottom >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> once its all done i'll take a picture and post it >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif> >biggrin.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
I say you should get a 4AG headgasket, to avoid hot spots in the head. Like I said before, the reason the gaskets are different, is because the 16V head flows water differently than the 4/7AFE/20V. The gaskets will all fit, more or less, but the way the coolant flows is the big difference. You'll notice right away when you put the head on the block that you'll probably need to do something about the water inlet/outlet. The 4/7AFE/20V has both inlet/outlet on the back of the head, while the 4AG typically has one by the water pump, and one in the back of the head. Get what I'm saying?

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
That's a good point. I think you might want to look into that a bit farther. My 4AFE hg was flipped upside-down (thanks a ton to my dad who put the gasket on when I wasn't looking in the first place) and even though the holes matched up, they still didn't match up 100% perfect. This caused a massive oil leak and took a ton of work to fix with the motor in the car.
-Kwanza26+Jun 3, 2005 - 4:53 PM
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jun 3, 2005 - 4:53 PM)
I say you should get a 4AG headgasket, to avoid hot spots in the head.  Like I said before, the reason the gaskets are different, is because the 16V head flows water differently than the 4/7AFE/20V.  The gaskets will all fit, more or less, but the way the coolant flows is the big difference.  You'll notice right away when you put the head on the block that you'll probably need to do something about the water inlet/outlet.  The 4/7AFE/20V has both inlet/outlet on the back of the head, while the 4AG typically has one by the water pump, and one in the back of the head.  Get what I'm saying?
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hey bee they have both gaskets there the 4ag and the 7af they just want to see the diff but were going with the 4ag >wink.gif>

-Mike431635+Jun 3, 2005 - 9:45 PM
QUOTE(Mike431635 @ Jun 3, 2005 - 9:45 PM)
That's a good point. I think you might want to look into that a bit farther. My 4AFE hg was flipped upside-down (thanks a ton to my dad who put the gasket on when I wasn't looking in the first place) and even though the holes matched up, they still didn't match up 100% perfect. This caused a massive oil leak and took a ton of work to fix with the motor in the car.
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who are you?

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
Yes but Nik, did you try lining it up with the 7AFE flange? I understand it lines up pretty well to the 4AGE flange, but what about the 7AFE?

-Doc

-Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaireClick here to see my swapsdrtweak@phoenixtuning.com
-Dr_Tweak+Jun 7, 2005 - 5:21 AM
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jun 7, 2005 - 5:21 AM)
Yes but Nik, did you try lining it up with the 7AFE flange? I understand it lines up pretty well to the 4AGE flange, but what about the 7AFE?

-Doc
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7AFE and 4AGE ports are nearly identical. It should work the same (B series manifold mod)...

"It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"1995 AT200 Celica ST:stocked out daily driver...1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5:silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies...1991 SW2x MR2 n/a:bare bones hardtop model soon to be...
-Dr_Tweak+Jun 6, 2005 - 10:21 PM
QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jun 6, 2005 - 10:21 PM)
Yes but Nik, did you try lining it up with the 7AFE flange? I understand it lines up pretty well to the 4AGE flange, but what about the 7AFE?

-Doc
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i never lined up the 7af flange just the 4ag if lines up with the 4ag then you should be fine mating the 7afe falnge with that manifold minus a little cutting >wink.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
these are about 2 weeks old

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the cam shaft covers will be painted to match the car
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This post has been edited by nik: Jul 21, 2005 - 9:42 AM

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
man, is that your garage or the shop? There are parts everywhere...

Looks like my basement. >smile.gif>
-FallenHero+Jul 22, 2005 - 1:22 PM
QUOTE(FallenHero @ Jul 22, 2005 - 1:22 PM)
man, is that your garage or the shop?  There are parts everywhere...

Looks like my basement. >smile.gif>
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thats the back room of the shop i wish that was my basement well it looks like my garage >tongue.gif>

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
updated pic will be up this weekend of the car and motor and some extra goodies

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
-celi_gt_racer+Sep 6, 2005 - 1:11 PM
QUOTE(celi_gt_racer @ Sep 6, 2005 - 1:11 PM)
Bump for pics... i wanna see completed pics.... >biggrin.gif>
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i have a few pics like 2 or 3 of them rippen the old motor out but none of the motor in the car there still working on the wiring for the sds and both stock motor and new one are sitting out so they and check the tranny out and install it on the new motor etc

waiting on a few parts like radiator and some other stuff should be in this week or early next week

yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte