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Topic #27632 114 posts Started by Boss-Celica
If any on want to do this I also have a stock 3sgte head...PM me if any1 wants it???
I'll keep you posted if I am still going to do a 5sge.
I can all so get a nonturbo head if you want
let me know if you want it...
i like to know about what if you use a manual 3sge head put on 5sfe automanic block it that matter, and conver into a manual transmission. cuz i use to have 3sge engine but i blew my motor by turbo, i boost around 17 psi it went fast but went i got to second gears i hears a boom so i didn't know until i check. there was oil, green water dripping on the street. i feel i must blew my motor.. aww, anywas my block has a hole and my head is stil good, but my valve are not bend.. so i was thinking about put 3sge head on automanice 5sfe block, and use 3sge transmission on it. is that gonna works
awww please tell me english isn't your first language.... you ARE from wisconsin right? biggrin.gif
well let me tell you first hand....just putting a 3s head on a 5s block aint that simple.
ok you guys have mentioned the wiring up of the beast, but really thats the least of
you worries.....
You will need:
3s water pump
3s oil pump
3s idle pully
3s tention pully
timing belt
alternater mount
custom water lines
the list go's on..........

I have just finnished building a 5sgte for my 6gc and its taken me 5 months so far to do it...
It actully went in the car Tuesday.... Keeping in mine its not just a 5sgte.... forged 5s pistons and rods costom made... big 3s cams, springs etc......and a stage 3 port job on the head...
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312whp with more to come....
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well let me tell you first hand....just putting a 3s head on a 5s block aint that simple.
ok you guys have mentioned the wiring up of the beast, but really thats the least of
you worries.....
You will need:
3s water pump
3s oil pump
3s idle pully
3s tention pully
timing belt
alternater mount
custom water lines
the list go's on..........

I have just finnished building a 5sgte for my 6gc and its taken me 5 months so far to do it...
It actully went in the car Tuesday.... Keeping in mine its not just a 5sgte.... forged 5s pistons and rods costom made... big 3s cams, springs etc......and a stage 3 port job on the head...
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wow u finally got done with that project! congrats! smile.gif now we finally got a 5SGTE 6gc member on the boards biggrin.gif start posting about it bro! lol

bboy

..(formerly daily driven) 3S-GTE powered celica currently set @ 12psi..
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QUOTE(ice23q @ Mar 10, 2006 - 7:00 AM) [snapback]405529[/snapback]
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well let me tell you first hand....just putting a 3s head on a 5s block aint that simple.
ok you guys have mentioned the wiring up of the beast, but really thats the least of
you worries.....
You will need:
3s water pump
3s oil pump
3s idle pully
3s tention pully
timing belt
alternater mount
custom water lines
the list go's on..........

I have just finnished building a 5sgte for my 6gc and its taken me 5 months so far to do it...
It actully went in the car Tuesday.... Keeping in mine its not just a 5sgte.... forged 5s pistons and rods costom made... big 3s cams, springs etc......and a stage 3 port job on the head...
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all thats cool, thats the same set up thats in my car but I got .60 over 5S pistons, stock head..... deck block 10th.1000 ...
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my problem is the oil filter placement ..I'm been puting this together since last year....
[s]yeah this is my 4 langauge i speak hmong, lao, thia, and english,

but anywase
i hope you guy understand i want i am saying...

it nice looking motors,
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> my problem is the oil filter placement ..I'm been puting this together since last year....


I had to throw some tight radius 90's on my oil filter relocator to keep the lines away from the DP. Be sure to port the passenges on the back of the plate to smooth out the flow

ScottWest Michigan
port for the waste gate
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here is how i did my oil feed from the block......
this runs from the KN oil filter to a perma-cool oil cooler mounted behind the FM....

312whp with more to come....
yours are a bute!!!! I'm gonna do my own like that.... thats all i could get my hands on so ......
thats what i had to do, but yours is done bad ass!!!! I tilt my hat to you... will you ac comm press have enough space
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here is how i did my oil feed from the block......
this runs from the KN oil filter to a perma-cool oil cooler mounted behind the FM....

thats a good example of how it SHOULD be done.
great job man! smile.gif

Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
thats JUST the way it should be done....... where did you get all your fittings & steel lines????
you can get all those AN lines and fittings from summitracing.com

Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)13.6@108MPH, 5SFTE Powered
i know i live in australia and things can get a lil hot down here....BUT... i have done away with my AC for now.....less load on the motor.. its sounds crazy but it could be another 3-4whp that im gonna gain...

Im just having a lil trouble with the plenum design... port matching it to the head and runner size...... as soon as that done this baby can fire up.

VIDEOS>>>>VIDEOS>>>>VIDEOS for sure guys ok.......

312whp with more to come....
Hey, I'm very interested in buying the head!!! Actually I will definately buy it!!! I have a 94 st though and I was wonderin if I would be able to put the head on my 7afe(just a question)? If not, its ok kuz I have a 5sfe engine from a 93 non turbo Mr2 witch u guys say it will fit on right? Well yo DG, just lemme know wut u wanna do kuz I wil buy it.

Quincy
the 3s head will fit the 5s block not the 7a....
ok ice23q, why do u need the
3s water pump
3s oil pump
3s idle pully
3s tention pully

arent they the same? i know the oil pump is the same cause thats what i have on my 5sfe right now. same oil pressure and everything. the only thing that was different was there was on extra bolt hole on the very left side of the entire housing. and thats it. and you said you got .60 oversized 3s pistons? is that the stock bore of the 5s block or did u have to get it bored to match? where did u get the pistons from cause that is the route that i am going. oh and by the way im in the process of the same project as you. but im going to use a normal 3s intake manifold. and also where did get your oil supply for your turbo? did u tap into the block or do u have other means of supply?

This post has been edited by mywhite94celicagt: Apr 14, 2006 - 3:52 PM

94 celica GT90 Civic Si
I used 5sfe .60 over piston 3egte oil pump, water pump, and all 3sgte pulleys
The number of teeth on the 5s pumps and the pully behind the harmonic ballance are different... to match the 3sgte cam sprocket you need these.....

Oil feed was taken from the pressure sensor location.....

You will also need a 3sgte water return pipe as the 5s one will hit the starter motor..... i just cut mine and tigged it to sute....

Also the pistons are 5s forged ones from CP.....custom forged rods made here in Australia..... Anything else i can help you with..????

312whp with more to come....
whats the price on them over there???
SRRY TO BUST BUBBLES HERE BUTS ITS BEEN DONE BEFORE NAD I HAVE A WRITE UP OF IT ALL parts list instalation the owrks im gonna start doing mine here when i scrap my cash up u know
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SRRY TO BUST BUBBLES HERE BUTS ITS BEEN DONE BEFORE NAD I HAVE A WRITE UP OF IT ALL parts list instalation the owrks im gonna start doing mine here when i scrap my cash up u know


we all know its been done before rolleyes.gif
and we better respect this guy's motor building capabilities... he has LED UNDER CARIDGE LIGHTS - ya know? rolleyes.gif
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and we better respect this guy's motor building capabilities... he has LED UNDER CARIDGE LIGHTS - ya know? rolleyes.gif


aite aite....2 insults don't make a compliment lets cut it out...