ice23q

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SRRY TO BUST BUBBLES HERE BUTS ITS BEEN DONE BEFORE NAD I HAVE A WRITE UP OF IT ALL parts list instalation the owrks im gonna start doing mine here when i scrap my cash up u know

Well im not sorry to bust yours.... you aint even started your build yet and your knocking people down.....

And whats to comment about neons......??????

This could turn real nasty.....

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Boss-Celica

#92

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QUOTE(trey_135 @ Apr 20, 2006 - 5:54 PM) [snapback]423885[/snapback]

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SRRY TO BUST BUBBLES HERE BUTS ITS BEEN DONE BEFORE NAD I HAVE A WRITE UP OF IT ALL parts list instalation the owrks im gonna start doing mine here when i scrap my cash up u know

Well im not sorry to bust yours.... you aint even started your build yet and your knocking people down.....

And whats to comment about neons......??????

This could turn real nasty.....

What even happen to supporting someone, instead of putting them down. Respect others work if you want to be respected.

Punch

#93

help dont hate...
Thats what the site is for !!!

celi_gt_racer

#94

you started it dan

playr158

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you started it dan

actually i never tossed out an insult...i mearly mentioned we already knew it was done before..
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now back to 5sgtes

ice you got any updates?

ice23q

#96

The only update is that im not happy with the guy building the plenum.
Its the only part of the build im waiting on now....then i cant start this bloody thing..... We have had the easter break and now have the Australian Anzac Day break tomorrow..... sooooooooo.... the shop has been closed .......

promiss vids the day i get her going guys.....early next week im shooting for...

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urbandork

#97

you have insipred me to build one

celi_gt_racer

#98

any update?

Punch

#99

got my 5sgte started today but i got a big vacum leack so got to take the intake off to fix it...



This post has been edited by Punch: Jul 22, 2006 - 3:00 AM

ice23q

#100

Well done Punch... Its been like a race to the moon..... I still dont
have an intake so im gonna make my own now.....

some pics PLEASE..................

Here is what i have done so far....


This post has been edited by ice23q: Jul 23, 2006 - 3:32 AM

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funnys_tears

#101

i like to know about 3sge and 3sgte,
which of these two head will give you more power and torqe,
top speed,


new sentence,
i have two head of each one,
i have a 2nd generation 3sge and 2nd 3sgte..
but the 3sge have bigger vavle lifter,
and 3sgte have small vale lifter..
but if i go to 5sgte or 5sge, which one of these head will get me power...

Punch

#102

ice23q we need to talk... pm sent

ice23q

#103

Tears: i realy dont think it would matter what head you use. If i were you i would work the head by porting it and using bigger valves and stronger springs and larger cams.....

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playr158

#104

tears if you want a N/A setup use the 3sge head...

the reason i say this is that for an N/A build using the 3sge head you will have the option of ITBs open to you (individual throttle bodies)
maded by TRD, TODA and a few other companies

This post has been edited by playr158: Jul 24, 2006 - 11:25 AM

scothaniel

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Doesn't matter - the heads are basically the same. The exhaust cam in the GE head will have a slightly higher duration then the GTE head, though it not enough to really tell a difference. The rest of the valvetrain is identical. Power output will be identical.

The GE use's top feed injectors, which give you more options (in the US) for upgrades. and the GE's side feed intake manifold is nice - no lean-out on the #2 cylinder. But other then that, its really a toss-up.

This post has been edited by scothaniel: Jul 24, 2006 - 3:22 PM

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playr158

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Doesn't matter - the heads are basically the same. The exhaust cam in the GE head will have a slightly higher duration then the GTE head, though it not enough to really tell a difference. The rest of the valvetrain is identical. Power output will be identical.

The GE use's top feed injectors, which give you more options (in the US) for upgrades. and the GE's side feed intake manifold is nice - no lean-out on the #2 cylinder. But other then that, its really a toss-up.

an RMR intake manifold could solve the sidefeed for the gte head

Punch

#107

you can change the fuel rail for top feed injector...
http://www.speed-source.net/

kAto

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Well done Punch... Its been like a race to the moon..... I still dont
have an intake so im gonna make my own now.....

some pics PLEASE..................

Here is what i have done so far....

Hey Ice im new here but if been reading most of the posts here about the 5sgte. I have wanted to do it for the while and have most the parts, 5s block, 5s crank, 3sgte rods. one thing im trying to figure out is about the pistons. i Know that CP makes 87.5 mm forger 5s pistons with a 3sgte design and my question is will these 5s pistons fit onto the 3sgte rods, or do i need to have them machined? Also about the crank it needs tp be grinded off about .177 to fit the 3sgte rods and griding off that much will weeken the crank alot as i was told by my machine shop teacher. do i need to get the crank cryogeniclly treated so its stonger? if so where can i get that done at?

Punch

#109

well ice23q i had to take the motor out the car again gonna go over it one more time got to take the block to the mech shop for some more work. hopfully i can get it done this week...

This post has been edited by Punch: Oct 1, 2006 - 12:18 AM

ice23q

#110

Kato you need to have 5s rods and 3sgte pistons...yes they fit....

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kAto

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Kato you need to have 5s rods and 3sgte pistons...yes they fit....

I dont think that the stock 3sgte pistons will work since the bore on the 3sgte is 86 mm and the stock bore on the 5s block is exactly 87.1 mm, and since i need to bore the block i need pistons that are 87.5 mm like the cp pistons. That makes the 3sgte pistons way to small!! I have heard from somewhere that the best way to build a 2.2 turbo stroker is a 5S block, 5S crank bored out to fit 3sgte rods, 3sgte rods and 87.5 mm cp forged pistons. I dont know if thats true but someone here help me out i need the info asap. Also i forgot to mention that the top of the 5s rod is bigger then the 3sgte rods so 3sgte pistons wont fit stock 5s rods, then againe correct me if im wrong.

ice23q

#112

i will look at the part numbers for you so you can get what i have..
I used ARGO rods for a 5sfe.. and 3sgte cp pistons.... (might be oversized but ill check the invoice)..
What work are you gonna do to the head..???
What STANDALONE are you gonna use... A piggyback is just NOT gonna cut it i dont think... Also keep in mind the Dyno time to tune this monster. I have had 6 hours dyno time already...

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Punch

#113

i got a dyno next door so I get all the dyno time i need for a little bit...

kAto

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i will look at the part numbers for you so you can get what i have..
I used ARGO rods for a 5sfe.. and 3sgte cp pistons.... (might be oversized but ill check the invoice)..
What work are you gonna do to the head..???
What STANDALONE are you gonna use... A piggyback is just NOT gonna cut it i dont think... Also keep in mind the Dyno time to tune this monster. I have had 6 hours dyno time already...

I have no idea about the standalone yet. for know its just the block work. later on when i have more cash ill do the head work, so i have no idea about what needs to be done. all i want is 320 hp at the wheels, just for a daily driver, lol.