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Oh yeah, man. That's what I have. But I'm swapping the TO4B compressor for the TO4E compressor the turbo originally came with but neer fitted. Hence, why I'm getting a custom radiator. wink.gif

hey oobe i have the to4e in mine if you use a honda manifold you wont have to use a costom radiator , look in my profile to see for youself ,and the header style mani from the honda will flow better than a log style ,it also will work with the auto as that is what mine is wink.gif the cost of the honda mani is a little less than a radiator as i tried the log style and costom radiator idea , i found that the stock one works really good and is alot stronger than most other radiators , the only thing i had to do was remove my ac for my down pipe but you would not have to if you run a 2 1/2 pipe but i ran a 3 in biggrin.gif i hope i could help some smile.gif


Really? SWEET. biggrin.gif I love the look of your manifold. But the man was only charging me $200, and his work is top-notch. He's popular for his radiators and intercoolers...the fast guys here use his stuff. smile.gif

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
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Oh yeah, man. That's what I have. But I'm swapping the TO4B compressor for the TO4E compressor the turbo originally came with but neer fitted. Hence, why I'm getting a custom radiator. wink.gif

hey oobe i have the to4e in mine if you use a honda manifold you wont have to use a costom radiator , look in my profile to see for youself ,and the header style mani from the honda will flow better than a log style ,it also will work with the auto as that is what mine is wink.gif the cost of the honda mani is a little less than a radiator as i tried the log style and costom radiator idea , i found that the stock one works really good and is alot stronger than most other radiators , the only thing i had to do was remove my ac for my down pipe but you would not have to if you run a 2 1/2 pipe but i ran a 3 in biggrin.gif i hope i could help some smile.gif


Really? SWEET. biggrin.gif I love the look of your manifold. But the man was only charging me $200, and his work is top-notch. He's popular for his radiators and intercoolers...the fast guys here use his stuff. smile.gif

cool that is about what i paid for my radiator i was trying to use , i gave 80 for the honda mani and i used a flange from the old turbo mani i had for a pattern ,cut out a flange and welded it up to the honda mani, i had a shop cut out the flange , i think the total was around 175 for every thing wink.gif when you get your radiator done i would like to see it as i would like to upgrade some time smile.gif
I will. I've been so busy, man. I can't wait to start modding the Celi.

Past -7A-FTE: Will never forget youPresent -3rd Gen3S-GTE: Swap in progressQUOTE (SinisterSinner @ Dec 19, 2009 - 10:52 AM)I dont want to even think of turbos, they blow up way too often...
Martin, POST up! Vids, pics! smile.gif

Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJCurrent: 850rwhp C6 Corvette Grandsport, Gen1 6.2L Ford Raptor
At last here again with my car at home smile.gif. My second trip was more "fun" than first (again you may read details here), however what you want to know are details wink.gif. I have no vids or any special pictures (actually you already have them here from Romas and Tom biggrin.gif). What I have are some notes for you from trip and feelings:

- fuel consumption
I measured three times, each different length and style of driving.
1. 410km, sometimes extremely slow (80km/hr) no boosting at all, sometimes high boost (200km/hr just once for few seconds), sometimes low boost 140km/hr or about 100km/hr. Overtaking if needed (lot of times needed wink.gif). 37,3 liters consumptioned (so 11lit/100km)

2. 530km, only low boost used, max speed 120km/hr (2-3x 140 in peaks when overtaking), lot of overtakes and boosting. 53,8litres (so 9,8lit/100km)

3. 100km, just 3-4 times boosted (low one). Max speed 100-110km/hr. Almost drive like regulations says (drive like this all the time no speed tickets for sure biggrin.gif). 7,1 liters...

- oil consumption
seems like nothing. I checked oil 3x (before trip, Warsaw, Prague) and perfect...

I have found only this "leaking" point... but seems nothing serious
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- exhaust loudness
driving by regulations it's amazing. Just bit louder than stock. When boosting and pushing it's like jet plane biggrin.gif. Just kidding. It's louder, but nothing extreme.

- small annoyingnesses and foolishness biggrin.gif
1. because of richer fuel mixture sometimes exhaust "shots" (boom sound when you release and push gas pedal)

2. sometimes fuel pressure gauge knocking really loud (even louder than exhaust and turbine when boosting at high rpms)
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3. don't like color of gauges... They just don't much together with color of interior biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif wink.gif
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now I must find black glow gauges for my dash... or change gauges from black to white (just kidding, I'll not touch gauges, black glows would be better wink.gif)

4. my "7AFE red top beams" is gone... kindasad.gif. hmm... time to devise something new... just move forward. "7AFTE silver top... beams"??? must be beams.. its SS-III replica wink.gif. and... it actually is breakthrough engine with advanced mechanism system, right? laugh.gif

edit (a week ago): 7AFTE silver top "Beams" finished... yea... biggrin.gif.
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5. that boost force is killing biggrin.gif. It's unbelievable change... so... it's too much power at once laugh.gif

This post has been edited by malpaso: Feb 10, 2007 - 11:28 AM

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Martin already drove away to Prague. But I managed to give his "SS-III T" a spin - nice experience, almost like driving GT4. We also did some photo shooting. Few pics below.

Martin's Celica stand-alone:
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And in good company:
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The butts (notice the exhausts biggrin.gif):
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7AFTE vs. 3SGTE:
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And some off-topic:

Martin and Blanka in the middle of my "family battleground":
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Martin and Blanka trying to understand what my daughter is telling them:
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Tomasz, it was amazing and pleasant experience meet your family. Big thanks to you for all care and huge respect how you can handle family life. Since now you are my biggest beau-ideal from that point of view smile.gif.

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Martin is already on the way to ya Tom biggrin.gif Just dont get crazy with the car and Boost - let him get home first biggrin.gif And on the High Boost mode - the clutch is crying biggrin.gif
I will be waiting for the pics and responses from your side once he gets to ya wink.gif

Another big thanks to Romas (of course biggrin.gif). He made unbelievable job in so few time! And good one! (almost 1100km test ride in two days is hard enough prove of quality IMHO). bowdown.gif

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Thanks, Martin. Anytime in future you have question about "kids handling" - let me know. Don't ask about "wife handling", this is total mystery for me. wink.gif

'94 ST202 - tuned, highly apprieciated, but sold.'99 ST205 - imported, legalized, Stage 1 completed.For slow driving: Yamaha XVS650 Drag Star.The most recent addition to the family and for the family: Toyota RAV4 2.0 VVTiCelica-ClubPoland-Everything you want to know about your favourite car ... in Polish
That kicking noise Martin - is Boost solenoid biggrin.gif Its starts to make the clicking sound once you hit the boost biggrin.gif The solution for this - place the rubber gasket under the solenoid (its the black squire box with 2 hoses comininto it). So it wount make the sound at all - gauge doesnt make such big sound smile.gif The oil "leak" you found - is from the old times already - it was cuz of the damn distributor leaking. So dont worrie smile.gif

Im glad you made it safe and clear wink.gif Enjoy the power wink.gif I will be replien your PM tonight with all the answers.


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That kicking noise Martin - is Boost solenoid biggrin.gif Its starts to make the clicking sound once you hit the boost biggrin.gif The solution for this - place the rubber gasket under the solenoid (its the black squire box with 2 hoses comininto it).
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...and just unscrew it, place piece of rubber under and screw again. Will be done... wink.gif

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That kicking noise Martin - is Boost solenoid biggrin.gif Its starts to make the clicking sound once you hit the boost biggrin.gif The solution for this - place the rubber gasket under the solenoid (its the black squire box with 2 hoses comininto it).
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...and just unscrew it, place piece of rubber under and screw again. Will be done... wink.gif

That's it. Apexi gives 0,5 mm thick rubber to put under selenoid so I suggest that you use similar thickness.

'94 ST202 - tuned, highly apprieciated, but sold.'99 ST205 - imported, legalized, Stage 1 completed.For slow driving: Yamaha XVS650 Drag Star.The most recent addition to the family and for the family: Toyota RAV4 2.0 VVTiCelica-ClubPoland-Everything you want to know about your favourite car ... in Polish

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- fuel consumption
I measured three times, each different length and style of driving.
1. 410km, sometimes extremely slow (80km/hr) no boosting at all, sometimes high boost (200km/hr just once for few seconds), sometimes low boost 140km/hr or about 100km/hr. Overtaking if needed (lot of times needed wink.gif). 37,3 liters consumptioned (so 11lit/100km)

2. 530km, only low boost used, max speed 120km/hr (2-3x 140 in peaks when overtaking), lot of overtakes and boosting. 53,8litres (so 9,8lit/100km)

3. 100km, just 3-4 times boosted (low one). Max speed 100-110km/hr. Almost drive like regulations says (drive like this all the time no speed tickets for sure biggrin.gif). 7,1 liters...


miles and gallons for the lazy people smile.gif :

1. 254 miles, sometimes extremely slow (49 mph) no boosting at all, sometimes high boost (124 mph just once for few seconds), sometimes low boost 86 mph or about 62 mph. Overtaking if needed (lot of times needed wink.gif). 9.85 gallons consumptioned (so 25.78 mpg)

2. 329 miles, only low boost used, max speed 74 mph (2-3x 140 in peaks when overtaking), lot of overtakes and boosting. 14.21 gallons (23.15 mpg)

3. 62 miles, just 3-4 times boosted (low one). Max speed 62-68 mph. Almost drive like regulations says (drive like this all the time no speed tickets for sure biggrin.gif). 1.9 gallons (32 mpg)




Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJCurrent: 850rwhp C6 Corvette Grandsport, Gen1 6.2L Ford Raptor
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- fuel consumption
I measured three times, each different length and style of driving.
1. 410km, sometimes extremely slow (80km/hr) no boosting at all, sometimes high boost (200km/hr just once for few seconds), sometimes low boost 140km/hr or about 100km/hr. Overtaking if needed (lot of times needed wink.gif). 37,3 liters consumptioned (so 11lit/100km)

2. 530km, only low boost used, max speed 120km/hr (2-3x 140 in peaks when overtaking), lot of overtakes and boosting. 53,8litres (so 9,8lit/100km)

3. 100km, just 3-4 times boosted (low one). Max speed 100-110km/hr. Almost drive like regulations says (drive like this all the time no speed tickets for sure biggrin.gif). 7,1 liters...


miles and gallons for the lazy people smile.gif :

1. 254 miles, sometimes extremely slow (49 mph) no boosting at all, sometimes high boost (124 mph just once for few seconds), sometimes low boost 86 mph or about 62 mph. Overtaking if needed (lot of times needed wink.gif). 9.85 gallons consumptioned (so 25.78 mpg)

2. 329 miles, only low boost used, max speed 74 mph (2-3x 140 in peaks when overtaking), lot of overtakes and boosting. 14.21 gallons (23.15 mpg)

3. 62 miles, just 3-4 times boosted (low one). Max speed 62-68 mph. Almost drive like regulations says (drive like this all the time no speed tickets for sure biggrin.gif). 1.9 gallons (32 mpg)

dang. the 7afte gets better gas milage than my non-turboed 5sfe. lol

94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
and better mileage than my NA 7afe tongue.gif

----- '94 ST hatch --- Yellow -----
My fuel consumption before was:
7lit/100km highway (exactly my consumption on way to Romas's place)
9lit/100km city...

my friend here has also ST and he has 12lit/100km (2/3 highway 1/3 city driving)... I believe it depends on style of driving and condition of engine...

p.s.: someone "translate" it please again biggrin.gif

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My fuel consumption before was:
33.59 mpg highway (exactly my consumption on way to Romas's place)
26.12 mpg city...

my friend here has also ST and he has 19.59 mpg (2/3 highway 1/3 city driving)... I believe it depends on style of driving and condition of engine...

p.s.: someone "translate" it please again biggrin.gif

hopefully I translated right. lol

94 GT - Sold -------- 69 Pontiac Lemans - Sold88 Alltrac - Sold ---- 04 WRX - Sold00 GT-S - Sold ------ 91 Miata - project/drift car95 GT - Sold -------- 96 GT - New Daily Drive
So, Martin how are things going after a month of driving the "SS-IV" wink.gif ?

'94 ST202 - tuned, highly apprieciated, but sold.'99 ST205 - imported, legalized, Stage 1 completed.For slow driving: Yamaha XVS650 Drag Star.The most recent addition to the family and for the family: Toyota RAV4 2.0 VVTiCelica-ClubPoland-Everything you want to know about your favourite car ... in Polish
Tom true is, I can't even remember how ST-nonT was biggrin.gif. I just can't imagine don't have 176HP for normal drive wink.gif. So ST-T has been perfect decision to the letter. What is new so far:
- new brake rotors, pads and dot5.1 brake fluid
- new TRD sports thermostat
- new TRD high pressure radiator cap
- new HKS super mega flow air filter replacement
- new distributor (stock Denso)
- new spark plug wires (NGK)
- new Beams plate biggrin.gif (so new 7AFTE silver top "Beams" is almost done wink.gif. Romas must be happy biggrin.gif)

will be done (till Parma for sure wink.gif):
- new springs (maybe shocks also)
- new wheels and tires
- swap splitters (ChrisC replicas no more)

note: also slowly working on interior (white glow gauges are gone now wink.gif). I'll post pics when soon (how "soon"
depends partially on you wink.gif)

that's all so far...

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Beams plate??? WTF martin.... Dont do thi please.... Keep it real, you dont have beams - and you wount have it in near future - dont you? biggrin.gif So why call things somthing that they arent?

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Beams plate??? WTF martin.... Dont do thi please.... Keep it real, you dont have beams - and you wount have it in near future - dont you? biggrin.gif So why call things somthing that they arent?

I knew you will be happy wink.gif

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I let the numbers speak for me smile.gif

High Boost mode (0.9 bar) 206hp / 296Nm

Low Boost mode (0.5 bar) 176hm / 225 Nm
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I have noticed there is no Dyno sheet posted... so for everyone who want to see it here it is:

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(note for Dyno sheet professionals wink.gif: bad visible lines were traced and results relocated in the picture. Original scan is here).

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is KM = HP?

if it is...OMG u made 200 hp on a 1.8 st motor? omg! at 13.23psi? just wow.

KawiLove
i have a question:

Which sparkplugs have u used?
whats that hard core dip for?
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whats that hard core dip for?

I was thinkin he shifted or took his foot off the gas for a second ?

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
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whats that hard core dip for?

I was thinkin he shifted or took his foot off the gas for a second ?


Dyno starts loging once you start driving. and ussualy you start driving from 1 gear till you reach the 4 - and on the 4 gear - you floor it. THis dip is from changing from 3 to 4. ussualy we cut all the dips - but this time we forgot biggrin.gif this is why biggrin.gif

Spark plugs that where used - NGK iridium 6

And yes KM=HP 218Hp was MAX on the high boost 13 psi. Motor is totaly stock.

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sweet this gives me hope for hitting 225hp on my 7afte nice tuning doggy
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whats that hard core dip for?

I was thinkin he shifted or took his foot off the gas for a second ?


Dyno starts loging once you start driving. and ussualy you start driving from 1 gear till you reach the 4 - and on the 4 gear - you floor it. THis dip is from changing from 3 to 4. ussualy we cut all the dips - but this time we forgot biggrin.gif this is why biggrin.gif

Spark plugs that where used - NGK iridium 6

And yes KM=HP 218Hp was MAX on the high boost 13 psi. Motor is totaly stock.



doGGy are those HPs at the wheels ?

I know you mention something about being on measure at the crank on your set-up, just wondering if this are measures at the crank too.
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i have a question:
Which sparkplugs have u used?

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Spark plugs that where used - NGK iridium 6
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Are you sure Romas? I have found empty box from plugs in glow box and there is BKR7EIX -> NGK Iridium IX, level 7 (so colder ones).

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Martin - you are right about plugs Sorry you are on 7 biggrin.gif

And these Hp numbers are at the crank.

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