i wouldnt drive around with it since its your daily driver. Maybe if your going to the track, put some in. but i dont think you want to be filling up with $7.00 a gallon gas. lol
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I don't really want to drive it much, if at all, until I get the oil leak fixed. plus, it's pretty loud and spews smoke everywhere and I don't want the cops called on me.. lol
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Is it kool if we meet up again at the same spot so i can take a look at it 1st hand
? I wanna see what i keep loathing over; what i'm gettin into 
Is it kool if we meet up again at the same spot so i can take a look at it 1st hand
I don't really want to drive it much, if at all, until I get the oil leak fixed. plus, it's pretty loud and spews smoke everywhere and I don't want the cops called on me.. lol
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no..i meant with race gas in it. Mines my daily driver....i put at least 50 miles on it a day
I gotta ask, how much oil did you guys put in yours? I know stock capacity is 4.5 qts, but I figure the turbo plus the relocation kit would add some to the capacity, I didn't know how much so I put 5 in, but of course, I've leaked out probably like half a quart to a full quart (in the 15 minutes total that the car has ran since I put the turbo on). my downpipe is kinda in the way of me getting to my dip stick so I have no idea how much oil I need to put in.
also, since I have a 94, I can manually adjust the base timing. would it be a good idea for me to retard the timing by a degree or two?
side note, I recieved my magnaflow muffler and catalytic converter today. hopefully, my mom will lend me some money so I can get the exhaust done, and I can get the canton racing adaptor with the stainless lines so I can fix the oil leak, then I'll feel a little safer about running the car and I can tune it without worrying about running out of oil.
also, since I have a 94, I can manually adjust the base timing. would it be a good idea for me to retard the timing by a degree or two?
side note, I recieved my magnaflow muffler and catalytic converter today. hopefully, my mom will lend me some money so I can get the exhaust done, and I can get the canton racing adaptor with the stainless lines so I can fix the oil leak, then I'll feel a little safer about running the car and I can tune it without worrying about running out of oil.
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btw, just placed an order for stainless hoses and hose ends, and I found a shop local that sells canton racing products so I sent them an e-mail asking if they had one in stock, so we'll see.
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cut some of the leg off that U bend, it will shorten up that section and look much better
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looks good, but x2 on what manny said...it looks huge
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looks like ya didn't cut any of the pipes lol. and do you have a hump hose on each side?
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looks like ya didn't cut any of the pipes lol. and do you have a hump hose on each side?
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yeah, I need to cut some of the pipes. I did cut a couple. this was only meant to be a mock-up so we could see what needed cut, but since it was late at night, we were tired, and I just wanted to see it start I decided it was good enough for now. I'm gonna do a few finaly things tonight, so maybe I'll cut a few pipes. btw, I don't have any hump hoses, I think I remember Lagos saying one time that they weren't necessary. and there is some play at a couple of my couplers, so I think it'll be fine.
nobody answered my questions though, how much oil should I put in? should I retard my timing a degree or two? and one more, how did you guys mount your intercoolers? I read a thread on here and lagos posted an idea about using threaded rod, but he has the GT-four bumper support and he drilled through his. I don't know if my front bumper will even go back on. I wasn't able to find any bolts that were big enough for the threaded hole things on the top of my intercooler... anybody with any advice?
nobody answered my questions though, how much oil should I put in? should I retard my timing a degree or two? and one more, how did you guys mount your intercoolers? I read a thread on here and lagos posted an idea about using threaded rod, but he has the GT-four bumper support and he drilled through his. I don't know if my front bumper will even go back on. I wasn't able to find any bolts that were big enough for the threaded hole things on the top of my intercooler... anybody with any advice?
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Not even the right size bolts at Monument ?
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i put bout 4 1/2 qts of oil. i don't think you need to retard your timing. for me i didn't even use those thread rods. the IC pipings held the intercooler in place without any other support. and it's still holding up till this day
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put in the normal amount of oil, start the car.
wait 15-20 seconds shut it off, then wait a few minutes and check it again.
you should have 1 hump coupler on each side of your IC piping.
no need to retard the timing.
i ended up using a couple ubolts and welding a couple peices of flat bar welded to the radiator support, with the u bolts over the IC ends.
wait 15-20 seconds shut it off, then wait a few minutes and check it again.
you should have 1 hump coupler on each side of your IC piping.
no need to retard the timing.
i ended up using a couple ubolts and welding a couple peices of flat bar welded to the radiator support, with the u bolts over the IC ends.
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they don't exactly have the greatest selection of bolts... unless they keep them behind the counter and I just didn't know they carried bolts.. lol. I checked lowes, osh, home depot, kragen, and monument and none had anything bigger than a 12mm bolt in metric.. I could maybe find a standard size that would fit, but idk. if the front bumper won't go back on cause of the thread rods, maybe I'll just let it hang like shin until I can think up something else. I don't really have access to a welder anymore now that I'm not taking a welding class anymore.
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Not even the right size bolts at Monument ?
Not even the right size bolts at Monument ?
they don't exactly have the greatest selection of bolts... unless they keep them behind the counter and I just didn't know they carried bolts.. lol. I checked lowes, osh, home depot, kragen, and monument and none had anything bigger than a 12mm bolt in metric.. I could maybe find a standard size that would fit, but idk. if the front bumper won't go back on cause of the thread rods, maybe I'll just let it hang like shin until I can think up something else. I don't really have access to a welder anymore now that I'm not taking a welding class anymore.
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I got a gas mig welder
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I seriously might have to take you up on that.
well, I didn't do everything tonight that I wanted to. I installed my intake air temp sensor which I forgot to install before. and I figured out that my front bumper will not fit back on the way that the intercooler is now. I have to order one 90 degree bend coupler so I can mount my intercooler about an inch further back towards the radiator. ideally, I should also get 2 or 3 45 degree couplers too but I can make the straight ones work for now. also, the threaded rods hit the bumper foam.
I started it up after I installed the intake air temp sensor to see if it would fix this one problem I'm having, but it didn't. basically, the car idles high, like around 1000-1100. and it's running way rich. like 10.0-10.2 (possibly richer, but my gauge only goes down to 10.0) and that's with me taking out 20% fuel. when I try to lean it out more (-30% to -50%)it reaches like 11.5 or so, but the car revs itself to like 1500, then it drops back down, (as it revs, it gets richer again too), then revs again, then drops back down. it only does this when I pull out more than like 25% fuel. anybody know what that's all about? detonation?
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I got a gas mig welder
I got a gas mig welder
I seriously might have to take you up on that.
well, I didn't do everything tonight that I wanted to. I installed my intake air temp sensor which I forgot to install before. and I figured out that my front bumper will not fit back on the way that the intercooler is now. I have to order one 90 degree bend coupler so I can mount my intercooler about an inch further back towards the radiator. ideally, I should also get 2 or 3 45 degree couplers too but I can make the straight ones work for now. also, the threaded rods hit the bumper foam.
I started it up after I installed the intake air temp sensor to see if it would fix this one problem I'm having, but it didn't. basically, the car idles high, like around 1000-1100. and it's running way rich. like 10.0-10.2 (possibly richer, but my gauge only goes down to 10.0) and that's with me taking out 20% fuel. when I try to lean it out more (-30% to -50%)it reaches like 11.5 or so, but the car revs itself to like 1500, then it drops back down, (as it revs, it gets richer again too), then revs again, then drops back down. it only does this when I pull out more than like 25% fuel. anybody know what that's all about? detonation?
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umm, so there is some kind of black sludge coming out of the intake inlet and intake outlet... what does that mean? blown seals on the turbo? the last thing I need right now is to need to spend more money on a different turbo... again... this project was already going to take until mid next week (at least) to be streetable, if I have to save more money for another turbo, it could take two more weeks on top of that. it really doesn't help that I'm about to lose my job next week, but I saw a help wanted sign at monument, a local car parts store, so I'm going tomorrow to see if I can talk to a manager about it. even if I made minimum wage and got a discount on parts it would be worth it because I spend so much money there
lol.
anyway, I pulled the turbo, manifold, downpipe assembly back off tonight, hopefully over the next couple of days I'll be able to get all the parts I would need to fix all the oil leaks. I know it's leaking from the oil filter relocation kit, but I suspect it might also be leaking from the oil feed or drain line. I didn't install the feed line until after the turbo was on the car, which was a bad idea. it didn't get on very tight because of the limited space I had. for the drain line, the hose that came with my oil pan didn't really work cause of how much of a turn it had to make so there was a crimp in it. so I got a 90* bend of some kind of plumbing pipe thing, but it still had a crimp, so now I'm gonna order the oem toyota line that is already bent at a little over a 90* angle.
the stainless lines are coming tomorrow. the 90* coupler should ship tomorrow and be here saturday or monday. the canton racing adaptor is out of stock and is expected mid next week, though they said that if I wanted it quicker they could get overnight shipping on it but it would cost me more. I don't think I will because it probably wouldn't arrive at their place until saturday but they are only open monday-friday so I wouldn't get it til monday anyway. so I just need to wait.
anyway, I pulled the turbo, manifold, downpipe assembly back off tonight, hopefully over the next couple of days I'll be able to get all the parts I would need to fix all the oil leaks. I know it's leaking from the oil filter relocation kit, but I suspect it might also be leaking from the oil feed or drain line. I didn't install the feed line until after the turbo was on the car, which was a bad idea. it didn't get on very tight because of the limited space I had. for the drain line, the hose that came with my oil pan didn't really work cause of how much of a turn it had to make so there was a crimp in it. so I got a 90* bend of some kind of plumbing pipe thing, but it still had a crimp, so now I'm gonna order the oem toyota line that is already bent at a little over a 90* angle.
the stainless lines are coming tomorrow. the 90* coupler should ship tomorrow and be here saturday or monday. the canton racing adaptor is out of stock and is expected mid next week, though they said that if I wanted it quicker they could get overnight shipping on it but it would cost me more. I don't think I will because it probably wouldn't arrive at their place until saturday but they are only open monday-friday so I wouldn't get it til monday anyway. so I just need to wait.
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hump pipe, smump pipe. . .
i've been hitting 18psi w/o one and having no problems....yet :-P
congrats on the build....MAD FUN!
This post has been edited by Consynx: Jul 5, 2007 - 6:11 PM
i've been hitting 18psi w/o one and having no problems....yet :-P
congrats on the build....MAD FUN!
This post has been edited by Consynx: Jul 5, 2007 - 6:11 PM
updates?
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not really. the stainless lines for the oil filter relocation came in. I'm waiting on the canton racing adaptor to be in stock at this place called livermore performance. they said it'll be in wednesday or thursday. today the OEM rubber elbow between the oil drain line and oil pan shipped out and will be here tuesday. just a waiting game now. probably back together (hopefully) oil-leak free on thursday or friday. then I'll need to make an appointment for an exhaust. plus it needs tuned. then it'll be street-able and I'll drive it over so you can see it
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updates?
updates?
not really. the stainless lines for the oil filter relocation came in. I'm waiting on the canton racing adaptor to be in stock at this place called livermore performance. they said it'll be in wednesday or thursday. today the OEM rubber elbow between the oil drain line and oil pan shipped out and will be here tuesday. just a waiting game now. probably back together (hopefully) oil-leak free on thursday or friday. then I'll need to make an appointment for an exhaust. plus it needs tuned. then it'll be street-able and I'll drive it over so you can see it
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i just started reading this thread. i have to admit, i had a mild heart attack when i read about the nut for the compressor side and how you had the oil lines... i didnt read every post, but im sure you got all that straighted out by now
good luck !
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yeah, the oil lines are being replaced with stainless braided lines and a canton racing adaptor. as for the nut, well, I bought a locking nut at a hardware store and it seems to be working so far... I really think I need a new turbo now though cause it's got some kind of sludge coming out of the intake inlet and outlet, do you know what that is? I guessed oil but it's kind of a sludge so maybe burnt oil?
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i just started reading this thread. i have to admit, i had a mild heart attack when i read about the nut for the compressor side and how you had the oil lines... i didnt read every post, but im sure you got all that straighted out by now
good luck !
i just started reading this thread. i have to admit, i had a mild heart attack when i read about the nut for the compressor side and how you had the oil lines... i didnt read every post, but im sure you got all that straighted out by now
yeah, the oil lines are being replaced with stainless braided lines and a canton racing adaptor. as for the nut, well, I bought a locking nut at a hardware store and it seems to be working so far... I really think I need a new turbo now though cause it's got some kind of sludge coming out of the intake inlet and outlet, do you know what that is? I guessed oil but it's kind of a sludge so maybe burnt oil?
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I would be guessing burnt oil too. what street is livermroe performance on ?
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I don't think they have an actual shop but work out of a residential garage or something. I justs did a yahoo search for canton racing or something and it was like the 3rd or 4th result. I thought it was pretty convinient to find a place 5 minutes from my house that stocks it.
they said they are located on the south end of livermore near Valacitos road. I asked them for an address, PM me if you want it.
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I would be guessing burnt oil too. what street is livermroe performance on ?
I would be guessing burnt oil too. what street is livermroe performance on ?
I don't think they have an actual shop but work out of a residential garage or something. I justs did a yahoo search for canton racing or something and it was like the 3rd or 4th result. I thought it was pretty convinient to find a place 5 minutes from my house that stocks it.
they said they are located on the south end of livermore near Valacitos road. I asked them for an address, PM me if you want it.
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yea, im afraid your turbo is most likley on its way out. Same thing with mine, its burning oil like nothing. Everytime i boost, i get a sh*tload of smoke comming out of my exhaust. But idk if you should buy another turbo. becasue then you dont know what kind of condition its in. I'm just going to rebuild mine so i know when its done, its basically a new turbo and wont have to worry about it.
the turbo is shot. go buy a new one. you would NEVER want to put any kind of hardware store nylon lock nut on there. the turbo spins so fast and generates so much heat that this nut will just end up getting sucked into your motor the first time you take it for a drive.
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there! now the intercooler is centered! the front bumper fits back on now too (yeah I took this picture before I fixed the piping on the driver side). the intercooler sags down like 5-6 inches when I let go of it though. it needs a bracket made. I was going to hopefully weld some bars of metal to the bottom of the radiator support that just go under the IC. but the IC hangs about 1/4" lower than the radiator support, so I guess the bars will just have to be angled... that is to say, if CaliJeff is willing to help me weld that up in exchange for me giving him a ride in the turbo celi
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heh, sounds good to me. i wanna take a look at ur lil project goin on.
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