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I was just going to update this because I actually have an update now.
yay for more parts!


so I've spent all day trying to get them on... installed it all, replaced turbo and ic piping and EVERYTHING and started it up and had a massive oil leak... no good... it was leaking from the lines near the filter as well as somewhere near the adaptor, so I pull off the turbo AGAIN so I can tighten up all the lines, do so, start it up and another massive oil leak! so then my friend discovers that the O-ring for adaptor is kinda not in place... at all... so we tried for a couple hours to simply remove the adaptor, put the o-ring in place, and place the adaptor on the block but it sounds alot easier than it is! now it's looking like we need to pull the turbo off yet AGAIN so we can put the fricken oil filter adaptor in place with the O-ring in place. so we gave up for the night. it's also kinda frustrating that EVERYTHING in my engine bay is now coated with oil, and that I'm wasting so much of this stuff at $7 a quart! especially since I officially lost my job yesterday.

anyway, Jeff, you live like a couple blocks away, you can come over and see it this weekend if you want. it might even be drivable by then (hopefully)

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Weak dude, i'm sure you will land back on your feet and have her up in no time. Oh and about losing all the oil, no such thing as free education . GL bro

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yay ! i really wanna see that car !

...we're still hiring once u turn 18

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I have to be 18 for everything! *sigh* My old boss gave my name and number to Kraft Foods/Nabisco since they were looking for merchandisers, they gave me a call this morning and he started asking some questions, and then he got to the "Are you at least 18 years of age?" question... that job would probably be some super good money too! I still have 7 weeks until I'm 18... but I'm filling out an application for America's Tire Co. right now. I'm pretty sure you don't have to be 18 to work there. (but you do for les schwab and big-o tires).

anyway, you can come over and see it tomorrow if you want. I'll hopefully get it running leak free by then. Maybe we can weld up the support bracket for the IC then.

u dont have to be 18 to work there. i had a friend that worked there tho, he said it alright; that the pay could be better.

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if it's more than $8 an hour like I was making before I'll be fine. I think it's $10/hour there.

My advise is to put the car to the side untill a new job is found. Take it from me, credit card debt sucks.

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I don't really need to spend that much more money, if any, to get it going. just an exhaust, which my mom is paying for... so I just need to put some time into it; which is something that I suddenly have a lot more of!

what a long day! today I pulled the entire turbo back off and re-installed the oil filter relocation kit. put everything back together. made a bracket for the intercooler using a flat 1/8" thick bar of aluminum and drilling a hole through the radiator support and then sticking a long bolt with a nut through it. kinda hard to explain what I mean, maybe I'll take a pic. got the front bumper back on. and took it for another spin! guess I could say it's done, but that would only be half right. I realized today that though it is running rich, that most of the smoke coming out is all blue smoke; I'm pretty sure that mean burning oil. especially since I have it tuned to run a 14.3-15.2 (it fluctuates so much and I have no idea why!) at idle so I know it's not running rich but it's still spewing blue smoke. I'm 99% sure it's all cause of my turbo. if you look into where the intake pipe connects you can just see it, and a lot of it! so, either this turbo needs rebuilt or I need a different one. I'm gonna try to see if my parents will also loan me the money for that, if not then I guess I'll be stuck driving the honda for another couple of weeks until I get a job! If I can get a new turbo so it doesn't smoke any if at all, then I think I can just drive it to the exhaust shop rather than having it towed for fear of being pulled over and asked to pop the hood.

there is still a small oil leak though. and I think, based on how far back it's dripping from, that it might be from the oil pan... Oh god I hope not! that was the biggest pain ever!

one more thing, on my last high throttle run, I felt something weird and afterwards it didn't boost and ran like it did NA. I think I blew off a coupler but I quickly cheacked them and they all seemed fine but it was dark and the engine was hot. I'll check better tomorrow, but if it's not that, is there anything else I should check?

my thoughts on the turbo celi: it's fast! I'm not too happy though. I spent most of the last couple of days trying to fix oil leaks and there are still more! once all the leaks are fixed and it gets a new turbo plus an exhaust plus a tune (I think I'm gonna take it in to be tuned cause I cannot figure this out! my a/f ratio fluctuates so much!) then I think I'll be happy. one things for sure, my next car will either come stock with a turbo or it'll stay NA!

This post has been edited by 6strngs: Jul 14, 2007 - 12:52 AM

this is how you learn. this is just the beginning.. you'll be poppin your hood more often then you think just to make sure everything's fine, no leaks etc..

so what I thought was a blown off coupler may be something more serious as I just tightened them all up but it still doesn't boost. the boost gauge at idle reads like -20 something PSI which is what it read when the car was NA, it read something like -5 or so when the turbo was working. so what else could cause it to run like it's NA? did I just completely flood the turbo with oil and cause it to seize? what other things should I be looking for?

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pull off your intake piping, and check the turbo.
i tried to tell you.
you get what you pay for.

eek, isnt this like ur 3rd turbo ?

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*sigh*

but I did pay enough (over $150 after the wastegate actuator, block off plate, and all the gaskets)... it just still sucked afterwards! if you can tell me any place that I can buy a rebuilt turbo, that would be great...

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second... I almost got rid of it and got a different one, but I decided to make this one work... bad decision however, so now my next one will be my 3rd. yeah

which reminds me, Ngofkucingway, did you ever get ahold of Negative?

so I went out today and tried to spin the wheel with my finger with the car off, it spun but there was some resistence to it. then I started the car and looked at it and at idle it was spinning but it was pretty slow and it seemed like it could spin for like 3/4 of it's rotation fine and the last 1/4 of each rotation it looked like it had some kind of resistence and it slowed a bit... it's kinda hard to explain. but when I revved the car a little it started spinning pretty fast though perhaps not fast enough?

if the turbo can still spin does that mean it should still be able to make boost? indicating something else is wrong. or is it definately the turbo that's causing it not to boost?


I'm still looking for rebuilt or good condition one. there doesn't seem to be many on mr2oc.com or alltrac.net like there usually is. though I see alot of WTB threads for them...

Looks like u got a lot shaft play. I think it still has possibility to create boost, but the shaft play will dramatically cut back on how much it will create.

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Will with the money, or trade, or whatever u did with Negative, it would be ur 3rd heh. sux

no. I drove it this morning, I made no boost. under full throttle the boost gauge goes to 0, which is where it went when I was NA. also, at idle, the boost gauge is at -10, which is where it was NA too. under high throttle, I can't hear the turbo spooling like I could before.

It didn't make any smoke today either. I dunno why, maybe just cause the turbo doesn't work it doesn't have any oil flowing through it for it to burn. Would I be hurting anything driving it like this?

I'm still looking for another turbo, I really can't find any good ones, and I don't even know if this one can be rebuilt.

how easily is the wheel supposed to spin when you spin it with your finger?

#1 the your shaft is bent causing the abnormal wheel spin
#2 what you are describing is exactly what its like when you blow a coupler
#3 check all your vac hoses too including the one(s) for the wastegate

and i went though 3 turbos before i finally broke down and spent the money on a brand new turbo (900 bucks custom built and polished from turbokits.com) and ive learned with my first turboed car DONT CHEAP OUT ON NETHN you end up payn for it in the end

I just sent a payment for a JDM ceramic turbo. only about 35K miles on it. If I put it on and it still doesn't work, I'd think maybe a stuck open wastegate or maybe I did blow off a coupler. yesterday I checked all my vacuum hoses, and they were fine.

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hook a bike pump up to the wastegate and see if it opens

I'm waiting on a turbo now. it's a JDM ceramic turbo. should have shipped today or tomorrow.

also, I have an interview tomorrow at America's Tire Co. so I'm pretty excited. I couldn't think of anything better than getting paid to work on cars

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good luck!

wat's a jdm ceramic turbo btw ?

same thing as a regular CT-26 but the shaft or compressor wheel is ceramic (or both?) which is lighter, so it spools faster. and it came on JDM 3sgte's.

or at least I think that's what it is. somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

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the EXHAUST wheel is ceramic.
diffrence in spool is negligable.

OooOOhhh. lol

any updates dude?

if you want your turbo rebuilt, theres a place in santa fe springs thats highly recommended, great job and great price..they do allot of deisel turbos but i think they also can do car turbos.
if you need a reference, tell them dean of deans deisel service referred you. they will take care of you
Custom Turbo Rebuilding Inc.
11033 Shoemaker Ave
Santa Fe Springs, CA 90670

(562) 944-6314

This post has been edited by LewFX: Jul 25, 2007 - 10:16 AM