ok, got everything hooked up. for some reason my wideband and boost gauge aren't registering anything, but I'm sure it's something simple. other than that, it was good to drive the car again oh how I missed it so! So, as a way of saying thank you for putting me back together again, my car decides it wants to have coolant leaks instead of oil leaks this time around. *sigh* it's leaking a ton of coolant from the turbo coolant lines. I'm pretty sure it's only the gasket. So after running around to every parts store in town and relizing nobody has it, or even gasket making material that could stand up to the heat, I realize this part can only come from toyota... which means having to wait for it... I was wondering though, would it hurt anything to just use some RTV sealant as a gasket temporarily, or to just run it only oil cooled. only for a few days, and I don't intend on running it too hard, I just want to get my low throttle map tuned and get everything running nice. does anybody know if I would hurt anything by doing either of these?

i bought my gasket from a seller on ebay, 9 bucks for both water gaskets, even tho i only needed one, u wanna buy the other one?

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OH..... MY......GOD....

This post has been edited by lagos: Dec 4, 2007 - 1:18 AM

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umm, ok... I've heard of some turbos using only oil to cool, I just didn't know if this one could or if it would damage things. It seemed like a reasonable question to me. This is why I was asking before I did anything. As for RTV, it's used around the rubber ring for the thermostat so I know it can cope with the temperature of coolant, but again, I was asking as I didn't know for sure. I don't really understand why I have to be criticised for everything I do or say.

On your last set up you had 2-3 bad/blown turbos, correct ? and you have a good one now, correct ? If I were you I would make sure I do everything I could to keep this one good...

I think some are critical because some of the things you do or say can be either harmfull or dangerous to your set up. We all want to see you succeed, and there are some very important things you cannot cut corners, cheap out, or rig up to work temporarily. Be patient, do research, get the correct parts, and then you'll make Manny and Art proud.

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He needs to recite your siggy over and over, huh?

DO NOT USE RTV ON ANY PART OF YOUR TURBO, AND DO NOT RUN IT OIL COOLED ONLY.

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perhaps not the nicest way to put it, but at least this post was helpful. it doesn't matter anyway, I was able to get a gasket from Calijeff so I'm about to go install that and hope that it doesn't leak now. then hopefully get my other two gauges working and a couple other small things.

I'm pretty sure the caps were there just for emphasis, not like he called you a meatball or something.

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yup.

manny wouldnt do something liek that

Coolant leak is fixed, but now the car leaks oil, and fuel, and it still leaks transmission fluid... I noticed it was leaking a large amount of fuel from the number 2 injector, so I pulled it out and the top O-ring was ripped. these O-rings are brand new from witchhunter where I had the injectors cleaned. I'm pretty pissed one broke so fast.

So, you fix one leak and two more pop up...... I'm starting to remember why I almost gave up in the first place.

i know that feeling, almost feel the same way right now

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thats cause you didnt lube them up with wd40 like you're supposed to.

take an old o-ring off your old injectors

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I put some gasoline on all the rubber rings and installed them within 30 days of recieving them per witchhunter's instructions.

rcengineering told me to put a dab of oil on the seals and rings before install

I always use a bit of oil from the dipstick to lube them. I don't get all those gremlins you've had. Didn't you check and recheck all gaskets, seals, and connections after the install? You have to take a long while to do that before even looking at that car key, brother.

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yes, as a matter of fact, I did. but it's a little hard to check an O-ring that sits inside the fuel rail.

Yeah, it's hard, but it's not hard to check the o-ring BEFORE installing the injectors. It's not hard to pull everything apart and give it a through look to make sure it's good to go. You're making too many easily-avoidable mistakes, and i['s costing you money. I'm just trying to understand why didn't you inspect EVERYTHING (meaning each single component that's part of the engine or related) before even starting up the car. I'm not trying to flame. I'm just trying to get you, because I don't.

This is what I'm atalking about. Some of you kids get pissed when I reply to your posts. If you're going to post such non-sense, you need to have the thick skin to take what others have to say instead of getting pissy and smart-ass about it.

"I'm fixing my radiator fan which was broken before. the motor fell out of the blade cause it was hooked up wrong"
How did that happen?

"btw, I got my oil pan back and the drain line did turn out to be about an inch too short"
What's so hard about taking a piece of string and measuring the distance between the two components? I mean, it worked with helicopters I worked on when I was in the Army.

"I put some heat wrap stuff around my oil cooler lines to keep them from melting again!"
Rubber lines for an oil cooler? Plus, the lines are supposed to be as far from a heat source as possible, so the cooler can effectively do, you know, what it's supposed to do.

"I tee'd off from the throttle body coolant lines."
Aren't those coolant lines supposed to run hot coolant to warm up the throttle body during cold weather? What are you doing feeding hot coolant to your turbo?

I'll be back with some more.

" If there are any issues down the road I will swap out the hose for a -3AN. "
Refer to Lagos' signature.

"well, a small coolant leak sprung before I started the car, but it was easily trace-able and I just needed to tighten down two bolts and it was fine after that."
If you would've checked throughly prior to starting it, it wouldn't have happened. It's too damn easy to do post-maintenance checks. Again, refer to Lagos' signature.

"I still need to wire in my gauges before I do anything else.
I need to be able to monitor my oil pressure and air-fuel ratio at the least before I'd feel safe letting the car run for more than a minute or two."
See, then you complain when stuff doesn't go the way it should. You do "everything" and forget one, if not, the most important thing in a turbo setup? Why did you even start up the car, then? What's the hurry if it's not properly finished?

"I kind of regret going with the SAFCII instead of the NEO this time around. The SAFC was way cheaper and can measure knock, but the Neo was much more user friendly and it looked way nicer IMO.
Cheaper, huh? First, cheap is not a healthy word when turbocharging any Celica. Second, why are you doing this if you don't even have the proper funds for it? Piecing it first makes much more sense than straight-up getting to business without having everything you need. You cannot even make up your mind on what fuel management to use.
First you want the Neo, then you get the S-AFC II because it has knock sensor, and now you want the Neo again because it's more user friendly and looked oh-so-much nicer? Didn't you have time to think what you wanted previously? It's called planning.

"because I think I broke the seals. There are seals between the transmission and the axles, right?"
What? You THINK you broke the seals, but you're not sure if those seals even exist? I don't know what else to say. That statement right there speaks for itself.

"'cause whatever it is I broke it and I need to know what it is before I can replace it."
That sounds about right.

"meh, $600 tops on airfare, $150 for me to take 3 days off work, and maybe $400 tops for me to have a hotel and food for 3 days, so $1150 for a turbo install in 3 days, provided you have all the parts, that's less than what a shop would probably charge for this kind of install."
After reading all your obvious mistakes, I don't see how anybody would trust you with a wrench on their car.

"*sigh* it's leaking a ton of coolant from the turbo coolant lines. I'm pretty sure it's only the gasket."
Your constant guessing is the cause for all your troubles. Stop guessing and inform yourself properly before attempting anything else. The information is out there.

"I was wondering though, would it hurt anything to just use some RTV sealant as a gasket temporarily, or to just run it only oil cooled."
Wow. This project involves that aspect, which is pretty basic, and you're not aware of it? By the way, have you read Lagos' signature lately?

"Coolant leak is fixed, but now the car leaks oil, and fuel, and it still leaks transmission fluid..."
I wonder why? Seriously, you need to put down the wrench and get your head out of your ass. Some may say I'm overly-critical. Take it as you wish. Before anybody pulls out the "bash card", I'm not bashing. I'm pointing out things that grabbed my attention. I'm sure most [of the few mature individuals here that don't get hurt by constructive criticism and don't always (and only) expect mad props, praises, compliments and "attaboys", especially when posting things of this nature] will agree with what I wrote. "Oh, nobody is perfect. Everybody makes mistakes" Yeah? That's not an excuse to keep repeating them, especially when they could've been easily avoidable had you instructed yourself properly prior to even buying a part or picking up a wrench. Hmmm, hurley97 is a great example. She's covering all her bases before even attempting anything. Mad props to her. It's not like the homework wasn't done for you already. The information is in this site. You must've missed it. Google is your friend, also. Have a nice day.

Edited for typographical errors. For the ones not in the know, English is not my first language.

This post has been edited by OOBE: Dec 5, 2007 - 5:12 AM

And that's all I got to say about that.

Use the knowledge of the Jedi, young padawan.

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I did check out all the O-rings and gaskets before installing them. I checked over everything multiple times to be sure I wasn't forgetting anything, I spent a lot of time preparing things so they would be done right the first time. I made sure all bolts were tight, I made sure all electrical connectors were secure and connected correctly.
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the screws that hold the motor into the shroud were not screwed through the shroud into the motor, just through the motor and thus were not doing anything. the motor was held in place only by the one nut on the other side of the fan blade. And it worked for a long while. It was not broken when I installed my koyo radiator, and was broken before I removed it. Eventually the blade just broke in the center and the motor was not secured by anything. the motor did not actually fall out. I noticed the blade was loose, and was able to pull the motor out without any effort. This is not my fault but the previous owner's/the mechanic of the previous owner for not installing it correctly.

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yeah, I did measure it. but did not account for exactly where on the oil pan the bung needed to placed so that it would not interfere with the baffles. therfore the hung needed to be moved over an inch from where I had originally planned to position it, thus making the line too short to reach it.

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uh... yeah... that's what they came with stock! I never touched them, one metled simply because of it's close vicinity to the downpipe. I didn't re-route them or replace metal lines with rubber ones...

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hey guess what, that's what everybody else on the forum does. I even asked about how they should be routed and got my information from presure2. so perhaps you should be criticising him too along with everyone else on this website who has a 5sfte.

I'll be back with some more.

oobie, where do you suggest tapping coolant from ?

oobe, u may have completed ur 5sfte project successfully, but what give u the right to criticize like u did. u may be restating past questions and answering them belligerently, but how does that help him at all. I do think you owe him an apology man.

This post has been edited by CaliJeff: Dec 5, 2007 - 8:59 PM

Apology for what? For quoting what he wrote and speaking my mind? All of a sudden I am Mr. Mean Guy for not posting smileys and buttkissery? What are these forums comprised of? Five year olds? Again, all that is expected here is, quoting by what I wrote earlier, is mad props, praises, compliments and "attaboys". God forbid somebody posts something other than laughs and anything not in a happy tone, and tears will be running and hearts will be broken in 6GC.net. It's apparent that I wasted my time in this thread, and all I did was upset some young hearts, instead of opening some eyes. I'm not wasting my time anymore with this. You want to go ahead and keep doing your thing? Be my guest. I'm not stepping in or reading this thread anymore. The least thing I need is to try to steer someone the right way, and get some defensive kids stick up for their "wounded" buddy that cannot take a little bit of heat from his own mistakes.

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Hah! point out my mistakes and steer me in the right direction? that's funny, cause that's not what I read. looked more like picking apart everything I said so you could make accusations and assumptions about how I'm doing everything so "wrong". Ok, so I stubbornly chose to use an oil feed line slightly too large for my application and suddenly I'm half-assing every single thing and not spending any time looking things over or double checking anything, cheaping out and trying to get away with the bare minimum? Now I'm a complete idiot who knows absolutely nothing about cars and is ignoring every single piece of advice (if you could call it that, more like criticism) given to me? come on! I've spent a considerable amount of time researching everything. and I've spent way more money then I ever planned on spending on this project. once I went over-budget, I tried to find a couple ways to cut some cost back, such as going with the cheap oil filter relocation kit. yeah, everybody said not to, but I know other people on this site were able to run for weeks/months with a similar set-up so I figured I could get by for a while. well, I had to learn my lesson the hard way. There have been a couple other things like that too, but for the most part, I tried to get the best I could for everything else. I've been thinking about and researching everything I could about the 5sfte for over a year. If you hadn't noticed, I've gone with a very different IC piping set-up than I had before. I didn't just throw it together for the heck of it, I spent hours measuring, test fitting, and rigging it up to get it just right. That's just an example for you of how carefully I've been trying to get this done RIGHT! I didn't start this thread until I was nearly complete. a few months ago everything was completely in shambles. to have like three tiny things go wrong out of the dozens of different things I had to do to get this car running again, I'd say I did pretty good. After all the work I did, it really doesn't feel good to be insulted for the three tiny things that went wrong, among other things that really weren't/aren't problems at all, you just felt like insulting me for them for the heck of it. /rant

anyway, if we could get this thread back on track like I tried to do before, I looked on Alldata tonight while I was at school for the procedure for replacing the fuel injectors. What it said to do was to apply a light coat of gasoline or some certain kind of oil (I can't remember the exact wording, but I think it meant like WD-40 or similar) to all the rubber rings before installation, which I did. then in bold letters it said "DO NOT APPLY ENGINE OIL, GEAR OIL, TRANSMISSION FLUID, DIESEL OIL, OR DIESEL FUEL TO ANY OF THE RINGS OR GROMMETS!"

heheh...

anyways hope it works out for ya man, dont bother askin a question or 2 if u dont know. and hey stuff happens when your making custom kits and not goin exactly the same route as the next guy. but whatever. do it right. get it runnin. get a good tune. and have some fun.

Hey oobe, i know you said you would stay out of this thread, (a good thing) but in case you do read this... "are you shi**ing me with all that rude BULLSH*T".
BTW im not some kid sticking up for a wounded friend, but a grown man that knows the difference between constructive criticism and being an AS*HOLE.

Sorry guys, just had to say it.

6strings, good luck with your build!

This post has been edited by zero07: Dec 6, 2007 - 1:01 PM