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QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Sep 8, 2008 - 8:07 PM) *
>i'm curious to know where exactly on the firewall you cut to fit the engine harness? did you use the same rubber grommet from the original harness on the firewall?


^^ that's the only pic I have. I first decided what spot would be best with the harness, where the ECU sits, and it's a clean spot through the firewall so everything fits nice. We then drilled a hole then measured the size of the sock hole and cut the hole to match. I have the stock rubber grommet over (not screwed in) the hole just like the original spot, just haven't gotten to securing it properly. note: we used the 5s ECU brackets on the 3s ECU to fit it exactly where the 5s one was.

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QUOTE (jeffrosie @ Sep 12, 2008 - 2:39 PM) *
>Please tell me what you have done regarding the axle's. I too will be useing the same gearbox as you - E153.
What I want to know is as the output drives of the E153 gearbox is bigger than that of the S series box, did you just change the inner CV joints of the ST205 to the standard axles of the GT.

for the e153, the axles you need are MR2 inner axle stubs (they fit into the tranny) and they bolt onto st185 outer axles (they fit into the celica hubs). Both MR2 and st185 axles are not like the stock celica axles, they each seperate into 2 pieces and and you need inners from one and outers from the other. I also used 1/2inch (12-13mm) spacers in between each piece so they would be long enough for our cars. Snapshotgt posted a pic of his spacer (a few posts up) and I posted a pic on page 1.

update.
I haven't had much time to mess with the car lately but today I rebuilt the pass side axle. I was leaking grease from the spacer (I didn't use new cork gaskets when I first put it together) and the grease eventually just spun out of it. I could hear the axle make a little noise (from the balls and cage) so I had to get this done.
I also put the cruise control back in smile.gif
and we tightened up the power steering line that was leaking too (banjo bolt).

so now the car runs just fine, no real problems - just the axle I didn't do properly to begin with and a few little things but nothing major, and nothing that prevents me from boosting heavily daily smile.gif

I need to make a vid soon with how much of a difference the exhaust cut-out makes. If I'm in 3rd at about 3k rpms and I floor it the boost builds to about 11 psi and the car is fast. If I open the cut out and do the same thing it instantly builds up to 17 psi and takes off like you wouldn't believe. It's incredible smile.gif I can open the cut-out parcially and have super fast spool to 13, 14, 15, whatever psi I want. It's a great boost controller.

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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Sep 18, 2008 - 10:56 PM) *
>...takes off like you wouldn't believe...


I bet it feels amazing!

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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Sep 18, 2008 - 9:56 PM) *
>I need to make a vid soon with how much of a difference the exhaust cut-out makes. If I'm in 3rd at about 3k rpms and I floor it the boost builds to about 11 psi and the car is fast. If I open the cut out and do the same thing it instantly builds up to 17 psi and takes off like you wouldn't believe. It's incredible smile.gif I can open the cut-out parcially and have super fast spool to 13, 14, 15, whatever psi I want. It's a great boost controller.

Yeah - I'm totally doing this now - I miss the open downpipe sound and easy spool but I just can't drive around all the time like that. I've been wanting to do this for years but the last time I checked the electric cutouts were going for roughly $200. Is that still the going rate or has the price come down any?

ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI]PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYOSUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper SportsEXT: WRC/TRD/404QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM)Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.Slow down Paul Walker.6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url]
Thanks for the headsup on the axles batman, about the spacers - did you have them specially made??
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QUOTE (jeffrosie @ Sep 19, 2008 - 8:44 PM) *
>Thanks for the headsup on the axles batman, about the spacers - did you have them specially made??

I made them from the un-used axle parts.

also, small update.

after driving the car for a few weeks now I finally calculated my mileage.
with some boosting, nothing too crazy just daily fun driving mixed highway and city, I got 25 mpg ! that's just about what I got from my 5s smile.gif I'm gonna try to make some vids today, stay tuned.

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damn you. I get a rocking 19mpg.

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Looks great, Dustin. Congrats on the swap. I knew you would do the 3rd gen some day. biggrin.gif

- J


QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
out of curiosity did you get an OBD2 motor?
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QUOTE (playr158 @ Sep 22, 2008 - 3:05 PM) *
>out of curiosity did you get an OBD2 motor?

IIRC the motor was out of a 94, so no.

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cutout sounds nice dude.

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Sweet biggrin.gif

ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI]PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYOSUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper SportsEXT: WRC/TRD/404QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM)Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.Slow down Paul Walker.6GC Chat - Go there: [url="http://www.griffgirl.com/forum/chat/index.php[/url]
those vids suck, I know. I will have better vids soon.

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That cutout is the ****, the first one looks like the only road in Fall River I know. smile.gif

JDM guy made me do it.
Sounds good............ but stop teasing us and post the good sh1t! bowdown.gif

Sorry, no animated sigs allowed.
yea it looks like the circle by pressure2's house....at least i think...

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QUOTE (Daftboy @ Sep 24, 2008 - 9:55 AM) *
>yea it looks like the circle by pressure2's house....at least i think...

nope, thats not near me.

and yes, the cutout sounds AWESOME. biggrin.gif

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I really like how you placed that wideband meter, and tell me, is that a custom made pod that u made so u can put the gauge there or did you buy that somewhere? I wanted to do something the same but that look 10x better than what i had in mind, but i plan to put a boost gauge there. I wanna buy a gauge pod like that if its sold somewhere.
the single pod was made by an overseas member here a while back, doGGy was his nameo.
AFAIK he doesn't make them anymore.

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When you taking this to the dyno....I want to see some numbers =]

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that's F'in sweet dude! congrats on the successful swap. Now about that 5s... I'm definately in the market for one and I know yours would have been well cared for. Obviously someone else has dibs on the cams, and that's ok. All I'd really need is the block, head, oil pan, and possibly the headers that you had if you still had them wink.gif PM me if you'd be willing to sell it to me.

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just a quick update.

I installed some tworus brass shifter cable bushings, painted my intake pipe, and replaced the stock turbo to IC coupler with a silicone one. I also had a water bypass hose leak and just about pop on me, it's the hose directly from the main lower water line to the water neck (about 3-4 inches long and elbowed). The 185 hose was too small in diameter so I ended up getting a similar/stronger hose from an auto parts store. It sucked replacing it in but now it's back to 100%

The solid shifter bushings are good and bad. The shifting is much more precise but feels a bit notchy. It reminded me of going from a stock shifter to a short shifter. Also getting into 5th and reverse isn't as easy as before. I'm still up in the air about keeping them or just putting brand new ones in (my old ones were worn).

other than that, no real problems, just driving it and having fun with it. next week I'm gonna change the oil and plugs before the winter.

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yea dustin, get rid of them, what i learned recently.......... Notchy gear shifts = blown tranny (e-153 lsd)(7thgen short shift)

I had the real TRD short shift on my old gt2 and that was great, but still notchy at high rpms.....2nd would notch, and 3rd just wouldn't go in sometimes and it would cost me a whole second in the 1/4 mile.
went to the dyno today, I thought Jim was coming up here so we could all go but that didn't happen for some reason. Either way he went in Jersey and I went near me.

my results

19.04psi = 329.62hp & 288.64ft tq

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then I turned the boost up a bit and went to this

22.35psi = 335hp & 306.72ft tq

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and then with the motor a little warm from the runs I started to knock a bit and decided to shut it down

22.5psi = 330.12hp & 307.91ft tq

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FYI I never run my car above 17/18psi on the street, I turned up the boost on the dyno just to see what it can do. In a few weeks I will install WI so runing that much boost will be safer with no knock.
Ba-Zing.

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it looks like youre running out of fuel.

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QUOTE (lagos @ Feb 8, 2009 - 12:36 AM) *
>it looks like youre running out of fuel.

art, he had the sniffer in the tailpipe, but had the cutout open, so disregard that a/f chart. wink.gif
great work d!

::edit:: dustin, i hosted the charts on 6gc, with RPM instead of speed, and with the a/f removed, just to avoid confusion.

also a few notes about runs 14 and 18..

you can clearly see the car knock @ ~3600rpm, this is why running this much boost, on pump gas, without WI can get dangerous. especially with a ceramic turbine '20b.

in run 18, you can see the factory ECU at work.
the run is VERY choppy compared to the earlier runs, due to the stock ecu still recovering from the earlier knock event in run 14. run 18 is also a 4th gear run the earlier runs were in 3rd gear.

with the boost log, you can also see how much better the wastegate holds on jims runs VS these, its quite inconsistant, where jims boost log is perfect all the way to redline.




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I was going to say, that **** looked crazy lean...lol.
Btw, this kind of power in a celica is enough to smoke most bpu evos and sti's !


This post has been edited by lagos: Feb 8, 2009 - 11:04 AM

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QUOTE (lagos @ Feb 8, 2009 - 10:53 AM) *
>I was going to say, that **** looked crazy lean...lol.

yea, i told him to take the a/f out, before he posted to avoid that, but then again, we were pretty drunk last night...lmao
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Great numbers Dustin, please send me the run files when you get a chance. I would like to pick through them. Thanks. You should make an adapter for your tip so you can block off the muffler so you can install the WB into the exhaust cutout, at keast this way you can log AF.

You can see the advantages of WI between my run and Dustins run. Dustin did not make any more power by throwing another 3psi, where mine contentiously made more power as I turned up the boost. I cant wait to go back to the dyno it was a great experience, and I wouldn't have changed ANYTHING about the way it went down. I got the car all setup the way I wanted, under my conditions, my time, met some great people, a VERY knowledgeable dyno operator/tuner and had a great time doing it.

Dustin, If you have the will power to do it, it only took me a few hours total to add the helper spring and I am very pleased how it turned out. It helped me through out the entire Boost range. Even 16psi was dead flat, I highly recommended it. thumbsup.gif

330whp 309ft/lbs @ 21 PSI