Hey guys i was looking around and rpm has a beams clip complete for 1500 + shipping (850)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...mMakeTrack=truei know somebody imported one of these, 3sgte, what was your experience with the service, anything to look for. could i get the same thing in the us for less, any hook ups from the texas crew? cough cough Death are you there, cough cough
i would like to have a beams engine, torn between that and a turbo set uup, any help appreciated
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go turbo if power is what you're looking for. 3sgte's have more potential than 3sge beams. although the beams imo would have better mpg and are less maintenance in general so if you're not looking for more than ~200HP and just want to keep it that way for the most part (since there are less aftermarket parts for the beams engine), i'd go with the beams engine.
at $1450 i don't think full clips come cheaper than that.
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yup, cant decide yet. for themost part would like to have a rare setup. also my fears are the hidden costs. (the import taxes) where can i get them estimated.
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keith charges 1500 + 850 + 450 then i have to go pick it up. is that fair?
2800 hundred total + i have to pick it up at the port
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jul 1, 2009 - 1:06 PM)
>keith charges 1500 + 850 + 450 then i have to go pick it up. is that fair?
2800 hundred total + i have to pick it up at the port
thats how much all clips cost.
plus add another 1-2,000 for stuff like a new clutch, exhaust, tune up stuff, etc...
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Jul 1, 2009 - 1:06 PM)
>keith charges 1500 + 850 + 450 then i have to go pick it up. is that fair?
2800 hundred total + i have to pick it up at the port
You are not 100% correct...i bouth my clip from keith, or RPMgarage...his service is excelent and if you want you can even give him a call....my total shipped to a warehouse about 5 minutes from my house came to 2500 exxactly. 1500 for the clip, 500 for shipping and handeling, and another 500 for the clip to clear customs at the states. His clips are quality and if i had to do it again i would only buy from him.
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yeah but im talking about a beams clip. Not a 3sgte. would you pay this much for this, or get the 2000 engine from jhot and pick it up. IM afraid if i dont get the clip, ill be missing pieces....
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if the seller knows his business, you should not be missing parts on an engine set, but a clip will always have extra stuff that you can find usefull. but for the cost of the 3sge, I'd go for a turbo engine or turbo your 5s.
turbo your 5s it'll cost you around the same as a 3sge swap and you'll have more power, parts ready available in the states, and detailed instructions as of what to do, where to buyand how to install almost everything. if I had a GT that's the way I'd go, especially with the new upgrades, fine tuning and different set-ups avaailable.
http://www.jdmtunersinc.com/TOYOTA.html gen2, 225hp, 1200$ + Shipping anywhere on the continent is 900$ unless ur in mexico land
2100 for a 3s-gte
yes of course thats an awesome price. that clip has gone from $3000 to $1450 in about 4 months. Ive been wanting that engine clip ever since. and with only 36,000 miles, that almost like a new engine.
of course a clip comes with everything you need. you have a gt, so that makes things a little easier than people that have st.. that clip is cheaper than any engine on ebay or any internet site that sells japanese engines. you have to pay for the fees of when the clip comes to the ports. but you paying $2800 is really cheap price i think. but of course you can't just throw the clip in the back of a truck, you'll have to rent a trailer for some a uhaul or a place like that for somewhere around $100.
maikl produced 186whp with bolt-ons (check out his page to see the list of mods he has), im sure with cam gear grind and port and polish (if thats worth it) you can probably get around 210whp i think.
edit: what do you mean by this
i would like to have a beams engine, torn between that and a turbo set uup, any help appreciated
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186 whp. thats it? where does the 15 go. I am in the process of moving, but i guess ill think over a little more.
Something rare is worth to have, but difficult to fix. o well..
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Hey Dude,
If you get the 3S-GE BEAMS (Or any any 3S-GE) from an SS-III it will have LSD standard, I garantee it. Just make sure the chassis code is E-ST202-BLMZF
If you get it from an SS-II it's unlikely to have it.
Get the SS-III Twin piston front brakes while you're at it, It should fit onto your GT brakes easier than GT4 brakes.
Lower the milage the better in regards to the engine and LSD. (A beams under 100,000 is young and healthy and full of life)
The trans/axel code should be S54 -06D for LSD
Hell, even get the superstrut suspension aswell, you'll have a real USDM SS-III, It is so much fun to throw around corners, make sure your tyres are atleast 215 wide though.
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>Get the SS-III Twin piston front brakes while you're at it
give us some pictures of those.
the E54 is the stronger version of the S54 and also comes with an LSD
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>186 whp. thats it? where does the 15 go. I am in the process of moving, but i guess ill think over a little more.
197BHP remember you lose about 25HP through the gearbox etc
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hmm interesting stuff delusionz. good info to know!
and that 186whp with mods. so stock i believe is 169whp. check out the "beams redtop" website. just type that in any search engine, that site is full off info and keeps on growing with more info. they are almost halfway done converting the ss-III japanese manual with beams motor to english.
is the e54 stronger tranny than the tranny that comes on mr2 turbo and v6 camry, which is the E153??
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>about JDM version st202 :
Red-Top 3s-ge beams vvt-i have helical LSD gear-box S54-06D
both version in production from 1997 - 1999
SS-II(st202...no SSS) 3s-ge vvt-i
SS-III(st202 with SSS) 3s-ge vvt-i
about viscous LSD
SS-II (st202 no SSS) from 1995-1997 have viscous LSD + ABS
SS-III (st202 + SSS) 1995 - 1997 have viscous LSD
about UK and Europe version st202 :
all version with SSS from 1995- 1999 have visco LSD
helical LSD was only in JDM version st202 and MR2 SW20 (both 3s-gte and beams)
from
herebut if you really want a good proper LSD TRD make one
(since the standard LSD usually only last around 100,000km)
**note that the TRD LSD for SS-III and GT-Four are discontinued
so is there any differences between the ST202 (non LSD) tranny and the ST204 tranny??
ST202 S54-06A
ST204 S54-02A
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That's weird.. S54-06D is Helical? Would that mean our 1996 SS-III is helical or not?
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yes 3sge with beams has helical lsd. here the info to back it up
http://www.beams-redtop.com/redspecs.htmhttp://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/partdetail...mited_Slip/1357 i guess that websites sells them. hmm so your saying the viscious lsd that trd makes is better than the stock helical lsd that comes on the 3sge with beams??
how much would that trd lsd last.
it says that trd can only be applied to 3sge with no lsd whatsoever... is that true?
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That's weird.. S54-06D is Helical? Would that mean our 1996 SS-III is helical or not?
nope you have a viscous LSD in your SS-III pre-BEAMS. The BEAMS SS-II/SS-III have a helical LSD
and your brakes look the same as mine btw
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hmm so your saying the viscious lsd that trd makes is better than the stock helical lsd that comes on the 3sge with beams??
how much would that trd lsd last.
first off the TRD LSD is not a viscious LSD, its a mechanical LSD. as for the helical LSD(in BEAMS) vs the TRD LSD I dont know. its TRD so its got to be good right?
few articles about LSD's
http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/kb.php?aid=149http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limited_slip_differential-Bonzaicelica+
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it says that trd can only be applied to 3sge with no lsd whatsoever... is that true?
can be applied to the SS-I and SS-II, cant be applied to the SS-III due to the superstrut (which is why there is another part number listed for the superstrut and another for the GT-Four)
list of some tranny's
S54-06A
S54-06D viscous
E54-???
S54-02A
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so no lsd from keith in one of his clips, he has two ill e-mail him. gott to wait...
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ahh that will be a SS-II Beams engine yes (same gearbox as mine)no LSD, notice the last 2 digits in the model number (VF=SS-II ZF=SS-III)
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hey njccmd2002 i think you are a little confused. there are 2 3sge beams clips on rpmgarage. Both clips are from 98 celicas and they both have helical lsd.
Also, how would you know if these clips came from an ss-II celica or ss-III celica?
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i talked to keith, and he quoted me that one is an ssIII, not that he knew but he typed the plate info. The problem is, no picture i cant really trust im getting ssiii, the black one is really an ssii by what rusty said.
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umm ya I understood. Both ss-II and ss-III celica's with beams have helical lsd and thats all that matters to me.
by the way, for an engine clip or any engine swap that has been sitting for a long time. Does the oil form some sort of rust on the internals of the engine??
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nah, oil should never rust.. had our st202 sitting in a shop for bout 5 n a half months, the oil was 20,000kms old and it still drove home, the tyres and battery didnt survive for very long though. got the oil changed right away to castrol magnatec and its running sweet.
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really cause on dr tweaks vert 6gc that he is building the 3s has rust on the inside where the cams are. so maybe you can explain that to me
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QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Dec 29, 2008 - 1:38 PM)
>Yeah, this engine has been sitting around for quite some time too, which I'm sure didn't help things. There's a wee bit of surface rust on the cams.
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ya exactly that quote. but you still didnt answer my ?
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It had been sitting around for quite some time and I don't see how oil was the culprit. Anyhow, you wouldn't drop in a 2nd hand engine without taking it apart to clean it and install a new water pump, cambelt, accessory belts, etc would you?
That's only the valve cover he has off there, I'm sure if you're dropping in an engine its fair to assume you have a torque wrench?
What about the clutch too, you'd want a new clutch too right?
All I'm saying really is the surface rust is the least of your worries there, that will come off with CRC.
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RUSTY!!
which cluth fits the 3sge? where could i find one? in the us of course
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