i can pull the #3 plug out in mine to see. but i doubt there will be oil. Sad to see this happen. If you were able to get a set to rebuild the beams for cheap it would be great. also have you tried to measure compression.
Sometimes the oil might be there when they transport/store engines they put oil to prevent rust. May be a long shot.
Keep hanging in there..
Why not put the greytop long block in there and see...
I love the beams, i despise turbo. Even at full A/c the engine pulls hard. doing well...
Ill be out of the country for the next 12 days, but when i come back, you can come down and drive it. Or maybe you have already driven one..
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My Greytop had the same issue. Oil on the spark plug on cylinder #3. So putting that long block in would be a moot point. I've gotten to feel this BEAMS at full power a few times. It wasn't mind blowing, but it was good fun. It's how the car should have been from the factory. I just don't understand why the smoke would be coming from the engine bay. If the motor is burning oil, it should be coming out of the exhaust. Then again, I don't have a gasket for the B pipe yet so I do have a slight exhaust leak, but some smoke should still come out of the exhaust rather than all of it from the engine bay. I don't understand why this motor doesn't have consistent problems, why it's shifting back and forth on how it runs. Either way, we're just going to get a new motor, one we can confirm is a good one, and be done with it.
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you're valve cover gasket is not tight or it's leaking.
it's just like the 3sgte valve cover gasket (there's a center gasket for the plugs), pop the cover off and make sure it's tight or replace it, hopefully problem solved.
pic and link
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This post has been edited by Batman722: Jul 16, 2011 - 8:50 PM
my st205 swapandour Beams swap
I second checking the valve gasket first. I had to tighten mine to stop the spark plug oil leak as well. Its possible that's all it is. Hang in there.
3sgteing...burns twice as bright, lasts half as long."The weight of the world is love. Under the burden of solitude, under the burden of dissatisfaction."-Allen Ginsberg-
The same day Dustin posted that link, somebody else told me that the oil on the spark plug was probably just the valve cover gasket. I tightened it down and that seemed to help some, but not a lot. I ordered a new one yesterday. I'm about to clean the AFM and see where that gets me. The motor still seems to be bogging down under load and as far as the idle goes, it seems to be idling smooth enough, just not idling high enough. I can barely touch the gas and get it to idle just fine but as soon as I let off the gas, it seems to just drop out and die. Sometimes it can fix itself before it dies, but it usually just dies. I'm going to look into the O2 sensor in the exhaust and the AFM as probable suspects for bogging down, but I have absolutely no idea why it is idling so low. And no matter how I look at it, it's still burning oil. A lot of it. I don't see any smoke coming from under the hood or any in the exhaust, but I'm definitely having to add oil. I'm replacing the spark plugs as well just to see where that gets me.
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Sounds like a vacuum leak? I will double check all hoses for leak if u haven't already.
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Will do. Thanks, Eli. I hadn't even considered that, I've been so busy pulling my hair out over everything else.
Batman knows his sh*t. I just replaced the spark plugs. Here's a few pictures of what I find when I pull the old ones out. Cylinders #2 and #3. 1 and 4 are fine.
Not a pretty sight. But sure enough, I just put fresh new plugs in the car, oil-free plugs, and cleaned the AFM. Idles a little better, but not much. However, it no longer bogs down and hesitates when I floor it. So the car is parked for now, awaiting the new valve cover gasket. Once I get that, I'll deal with this little baby exhaust leak that I have somewhere and the swap will be finished. Assuming I don't still have problems, and I'm praying I don't.
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Fantastic. I'm glad things are starting to come together for her
~bloodMoney
I'm still waiting on the valve cover gasket to come in for the BEAMS, but in the meantime I started dropping the 5S in my gray car. By no means will it be drivable for a while since I'm still in dire need of front wheel bearings, a passenger axle carrier bearing bracket, and a few other little things, but at least the hard part of the work will be out of the way. pulled the car into the garage last night at about 5 and by 7, the motor was sitting in the bay. I'm astonished with how fast it went, considering all the trouble the BEAMS gave us. I'm heading back outside to finish the hoses and plugging everything in, and hopefully I'll have it started by noon.
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QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
I just remembered... When I relocated the battery, I was going to test a few things and my dad was outside and decided to help. I knew the relocation went well but I was going to test some accessories on the car so dad hooked up the battery charger and hooked it up backwards. Almost immediately, half the fuses in the car blew. I hoped that was all that was wrong with the car but now that this 5S is in, it looks like the car has a few other problems. For instance, when I turn the headlights on, the car says it's going 40 mph. When I hit the high beams, I'm magically going 60. I was planning on paying my Lexus off anyway so I think for now I'm going to be done with this car and either start planning to sell the shell or part it out. Nothing is official yet, but I've been wanting a mkIII Supra for a while. Now seems like a good time to pick one up.
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thats a ground loop issue. make sure all the ground points in your engine harness are grounded well and check all the stock grounds. i did that accidentally with my friends integra... forgot a ground in the harness and it would start and run only with the headlights on. the radio wouldnt woulrk with the lights on, blinkers only worked witht the wipers on.. weird **** lol.
so id check ur grounds. chances are thats all the issue is.
the battery shouldve taken most of the reverse current. if not id check into replacing your integrated relay...
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
I actually checked my grounds, unless there are a few that are hiding from me. The motor won't do anything at all, most of the electric stuff seems to be working apart from the speedo acting up. I'm not worried about it. I'm working on the BEAMS first, this second. And even then, it'll be a few weeks before I can get everything together for this car.
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theres one on the intake manifold, and then both fenders.
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
Nope, none hiding from me then. Everything is hooked up apart from the radiator and every single coolant line. My six month old Wal Mart Neverstart battery is completely dead, so the car can't do anything at all unless it's hooked up to a battery charger. I don't plan on starting the car without any coolant anyway, plus I still need new wheel bearings and a carrier bearing bracket for the passenger side axle. So for now, my car has a motor and the potential to start and run. I'm getting it out of the garage today after work, putting the BEAMS back in the garage while I wait for the valve cover gasket, and either today or tomorrow I will be going to look at another Celica. Nothing special, but it's cheap.
Just a note to future swappers, the issues I am having right now are exactly why you but a motor then do all the maintenance to it before dropping it in. You should never try to buy a motor and just drop it in like I did. Sometimes it works but it isn't worth the risk.
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Sounds to me like your Dad owes you a battery, or at LEAST a box of fuses lol
i wouldnt say so.. as a parent dad probably did well more for him than what he did in harm to the car
This post has been edited by stephen_lee: Jul 25, 2011 - 3:27 PM
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
Yes and no. He's done a lot for me, there's no doubt about that. But he's also the reason I no longer own the black Celica that the BEAMS just went in.
Everything is a go to look at a new Celica tonight. It's a '94 GT, auto, 160k, 3L2, all options, everything. The transmission is out on it, but it's a steal. It has a dent in the front right fender and a couple of tears in the driver's seat, and the usual fading paint on the body plastics, otherwise it's pretty clean. Between this and my gray Celica, I'll have enough stuff to get one of them running and driving properly, and the other is heading for a hasty partout. Or if the car isn't as advertised, I've still got the funds to get my gray Celica running properly. Stay tuned for updates.
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Jul 25, 2011 - 6:24 PM)
>Yes and no. He's done a lot for me, there's no doubt about that. But he's also the reason I no longer own the black Celica that the BEAMS just went in.
Everything is a go to look at a new Celica tonight. It's a '94 GT, auto, 160k, 3L2, all options, everything. The transmission is out on it, but it's a steal. It has a dent in the front right fender and a couple of tears in the driver's seat, and the usual fading paint on the body plastics, otherwise it's pretty clean. Between this and my gray Celica, I'll have enough stuff to get one of them running and driving properly, and the other is heading for a hasty partout. Or if the car isn't as advertised, I've still got the funds to get my gray Celica running properly. Stay tuned for updates.
Good luck Dan and hopefully you'll wind up a member of the 3L2 club.
But if you part out the red one please keep me in mind and greyhound the hood to me.
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Jul 25, 2011 - 6:24 PM)
>Yes and no. He's done a lot for me, there's no doubt about that. But he's also the reason I no longer own the black Celica that the BEAMS just went in.
Everything is a go to look at a new Celica tonight. It's a '94 GT, auto, 160k, 3L2, all options, everything. The transmission is out on it, but it's a steal. It has a dent in the front right fender and a couple of tears in the driver's seat, and the usual fading paint on the body plastics, otherwise it's pretty clean. Between this and my gray Celica, I'll have enough stuff to get one of them running and driving properly, and the other is heading for a hasty partout. Or if the car isn't as advertised, I've still got the funds to get my gray Celica running properly. Stay tuned for updates.
whoa, am I missing something here? or are you just referencing the fact that your girlfriend owns the car that got the BEAMS? if so, very sad. However, mighty noble of you to sacrafice your beams to put in her car...
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does it just need trans fluid? my red celica i bought was like that.. filled up the trans and drove it 20k miles till the auto-manual swap
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
No idea. It's very possible. I'll check when I bring it home later this week. I'm really not wanting to bother with the manual swap but I really want to get both cars side by side to compare them and see which I go on with.
Brian, if I do part the red one out, the hood is all yours, but it's pretty faded. Look at the hood compared to the fender. The fender has a lot more gloss than the hood.
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Jul 26, 2011 - 10:24 AM)
>No idea. It's very possible. I'll check when I bring it home later this week. I'm really not wanting to bother with the manual swap but I really want to get both cars side by side to compare them and see which I go on with.
Brian, if I do part the red one out, the hood is all yours, but it's pretty faded. Look at the hood compared to the fender. The fender has a lot more gloss than the hood.
Yeah, the hood does seem less vibrant than the fender but I guess it'd cost less to have a paint shop strip then add a new coat of gloss to the hood. Maybe.
Either way, good luck with both cars - with luck the red one just needs tranny fluid as Stephen mentioned.
PS: Welcome home brother!
This post has been edited by Keiri: Jul 26, 2011 - 9:40 AM
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hey, where did the red car come from....
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Part of me is hoping that the red car just needs fluid. None of the gears work at all, even reverse. Then again, part of me is hoping that it was just catastrophic transmission failure so I don't have to deal with an auto. I know that dropping my other 5S with the manual trans in the red car and do the manual conversion makes the most sense, but I have a history with the gray car and I've had it for a year and a half and I don't want to quit on it just yet. No matter which car I keep, I'm getting another BEAMS for it.
Noberto, I just bought the red car last night. It's nothing special, but it's in decent condition for a '94 and the price was right. Either this car or the gray one will be parted and sold.
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I'd hope it was just the fluid so I can have a functional, stock, back up car. but u do have the IS still so...
QUOTE"And, as always, your friendship, help, and dedication to the advancement of Texas Celica dominance is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks bro." -DEATH1994 GT:V6 swap, 5speed E53 W/ LSD, All Power, now RED1995 ST:SOLD @273k miles, Auto, all power, CarPC, White1994 ST:Totaled, 5spd, all power, RedRIP 07/09/09 @ 241,8101994 Lexus LS400:This is my new DD
It's not the fluid. I asked the guy earlier and he said something about a pin being broken. I assume he means the pin for park.
This post has been edited by richee3: Jul 28, 2011 - 9:41 AM
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QUOTE (richee3 @ Jul 26, 2011 - 7:41 PM)
>It's not the fluid. I asked the guy earlier and he said "something something something blah blah blah pin fell out of blah blah gears floating around something something and junk and stuff and junk."
Dear Lord what a terrible lack of help. Sounds like it isn't changing gears. Maybe a solenoid issue?
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Congratulations VB, and good luck.
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