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QUOTE (celiracer @ Jun 24, 2011 - 11:39 PM) *
>thanks man. and ya i'll prob end up on the dyno once she's running good.


Great. Post result once you do. I need to get my Celi dyno'd before and after my turbo mod.
Well good luck, and wish me luck in my build.
well new update. got all my lines honked up. and drivers side axle installed. got pass side to do and been working on my ic piping. and get my wide band honked up. an she'll be ready to start.. hopefully soon..
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QUOTE (celiracer @ Jun 28, 2011 - 11:07 PM) *
>well new update. got all my lines honked up. and drivers side axle installed. got pass side to do and been working on my ic piping. and get my wide band honked up. an she'll be ready to start.. hopefully soon..



Very great progress. I'm happy to see more Celica drivers completing their goals for their cars. Do you mind if I ask what type of wide band you are using? Didn't see it posted. If you did post, my apologies. I must have missed it.



-Ryan
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QUOTE (celiracer @ Jun 28, 2011 - 11:07 PM) *
>well new update. got all my lines honked up. and drivers side axle installed. got pass side to do and been working on my ic piping. and get my wide band honked up. an she'll be ready to start.. hopefully soon..

I would say thats going to be a big win lol! and do you have any pics of the conversion of the transmission?

1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green3RD Gen 3SGTE WRC Edition W/LSD E153 - Love BOOST <32001 Solar yellow Lexus IS3002001 Dodge ram 1500 Off-road edition
thanks guys. i'm using the innovate for my wide band. and i i'll look. don't remember if i did or not. but the conversion is real simple. I couldn't believe it.. if ya need any help i can help ya out..
Cool sounds good! what did you do as far as the axles go on the e153 conversion goes

1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green3RD Gen 3SGTE WRC Edition W/LSD E153 - Love BOOST <32001 Solar yellow Lexus IS3002001 Dodge ram 1500 Off-road edition
my trany came with the stock mr2 inners so then just went to my work and bought 93 alltrac outers. and bolted them up. I got them on now an looks good.
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QUOTE (celiracer @ Jun 30, 2011 - 9:04 PM) *
>my trany came with the stock mr2 inners so then just went to my work and bought 93 alltrac outers. and bolted them up. I got them on now an looks good.


dont forget the spacer, goes between ur tranny and the mr2 inner, also, need more grease cause of the space in and dont push too much on it when installing cause it will fall out in the inner when installing, and dont push it out too much too

oo, and you will need longer bolt too

This post has been edited by Needles: Jul 1, 2011 - 2:33 PM
needle. from the research i've done not everyone needs spacers. just seems depends on the car. I don't have spacers on my set up. and everythings on and looks fine turned wheels all the way both ways and looks good.
What kind of carier bearing you using?

1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green3RD Gen 3SGTE WRC Edition W/LSD E153 - Love BOOST <32001 Solar yellow Lexus IS3002001 Dodge ram 1500 Off-road edition
um i believe it's the stock one off of the mr2 it came on my mr2 inners and my trany.
Well as of now. everything on car is together and hooked up. Only thing i got left is the one pipe for intercooler and figure out my wide band. I had it all wired up. and the gauge was working. But i couldn't get the little led light and push button to work. So i'm still trying to figure that out.. I'm hoping i'll be able to get it done. I'm ready to go out and drive this beast lol.
Which WideBand are you using ? On my Innovative the LED's on the top rarely work for some reason.
I'm using the innovate lc1 wide band.. The calibration led isn't working.. Pretty much figuring out that the controller module has to be bad..


GOOD NEWS!! I got the intercooler piping all hooked up last night and got the car started. Well it started and runs. But it's running really rich.. Burning way to much fuel. checked fuel pressure regulator and the fuel pressure. That checked out fine. I can't get it to idle when i let off the gas it just die's. my dad and i have been trying to figure out what it could possibly be. And help would be great. Thanks guys..
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QUOTE (celiracer @ Jul 8, 2011 - 6:04 PM) *
>I'm using the innovate lc1 wide band.. The calibration led isn't working.. Pretty much figuring out that the controller module has to be bad..


GOOD NEWS!! I got the intercooler piping all hooked up last night and got the car started. Well it started and runs. But it's running really rich.. Burning way to much fuel. checked fuel pressure regulator and the fuel pressure. That checked out fine. I can't get it to idle when i let off the gas it just die's. my dad and i have been trying to figure out what it could possibly be. And help would be great. Thanks guys..


wiring error. check manny's 3sgte how to build. I came across that same problem 2 years ago

THIS IS WHERE WE HOLD THEM!Still trying to find the cure for ST205 asthma..6gc.net's outlaw vigilante because im a LEADER not a follower.
how did you do the wiring, did you use the fuel pump relay ?

also, Stef has that wideband, nightmare.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
fuel pump relay?. hmm is that something i missed? do i have to do someting rather then just wire the fuel pump in? lol. and ya that wide band is a night mare. hopefully be getting a new one soon
At what idle do you have to keep it from stallng? Have you adjusted the idle control screw?


1996 Toyota Celica Project Mean Green3RD Gen 3SGTE WRC Edition W/LSD E153 - Love BOOST <32001 Solar yellow Lexus IS3002001 Dodge ram 1500 Off-road edition
Where is the idle screw at? we were wondering if this engine had one. And i can keep foot on gas a little under 1k rpm. and it'll sit there but the rpm will jump a bit. And whats this fuel pump relay thing batman is talking about? i just wired my fuel pump in. didn't know i had something to wire in with it? it sounds good. and misses sometimes. But i'd like to get it to start and idle before we get to working on the other things. I just wish i knew what was wrong. blah..
how did you wire the fp in ?

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
PM'd ya batman. I'm starting to fun out of ideas. other than injectors and or my ECU being bad. Hopefully i fiigure it out.
they're not bad IMO.
If tweek did the wiring then IIRC he doesn't use the fp relay, the fp is wired to run at full power all times. Not a bad thing, but not the stock way.

Change the 02 sensor first.
You can use the st185 02 and splice the plug to the 205 one.

post some pics of the engine in the bay. I want to see if you have everything hooked up right (vac lines, ect), it could just be something simple.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
Alright. I will take pics of bay and get them up hopefully today.. I order'd a sensor for a 93 all track. But i have to splice it in? And would the 02 sensor really make my car not idle and run rich? I'll have em up shortly
are you using an 02 now ?

A bad 02 would make it run very rich, it determines the a/f ratio.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
ya i'm using the o2 it came with. so i guess that could very well be possibly it.. so the 5th gen altrac one i splice the plug off mine into it?
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QUOTE (celiracer @ Jul 10, 2011 - 4:42 PM) *
>ya i'm using the o2 it came with. so i guess that could very well be possibly it.. so the 5th gen altrac one i splice the plug off mine into it?



On my car I had to switch to my own stock 02 over the Innovative one that came with it. Also I thought that your stock 02 for the computer should be in the normal spot and you weld in a bung for the Innovative. I ended up doing that. got rid of the one it came with bought a stock one, then bought another stock one for the factory location.

The Innovative is nice and accurate but it really is a PITA

This post has been edited by JuMPiiN: Jul 10, 2011 - 5:40 PM
lol ya. it's not the o2 from the wide band that's bad. it's the actual controller that's bad. I can't even calibrate it. but yes i'm running stock 02 from engine. pretty much only thing i didn't replace besides all the sensors. but hopefully that will be the problem. i'm just wanting to know if the 5th gen altrac one works. and if i have to splice in the wires? cause if so i'll be doing that tm.
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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jul 10, 2011 - 3:29 PM) *
>Change the 02 sensor first.
You can use the st185 02 and splice the plug to the 205 one.


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QUOTE (celiracer @ Jul 11, 2011 - 2:35 AM) *
>i'm just wanting to know if the 5th gen altrac one works. and if i have to splice in the wires? cause if so i'll be doing that tm.

yes.

We have no idle adjustment screw.

change the 02 and clean out the IAC.

my st205 swapandour Beams swap
So rechecked fuel pressure and my fuel pressure with the +b and the other bridged and key on.. it reads 42lbs and then when i start the car and keep gas pedal around 800rpms it puts pressure to like 50lbs... My dads wanting to re wire the stock fuel pump in to see if changes anything. But i think thats a bad idea? and would hurt the engine? any info on that?
as said before, pump does not regulate fuel pressure, fuel pressure REGULATOR does that, so if fuel pressure is higher than stock, look at the regulator, not the pump.