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no problem. do you think you can get a picture of the rear end of the car directly dead center. It seems like your exhaust is angled out really far to the right vs the original HKS Cat-Back ST202 factory made exhaust

I actually fit a flowmaster 40 series with 2 3.5" tips next to the massive 80 liter Gt-four tank...took about 5 hours if you count the downpipe and mid pipe fab aswell...



This post has been edited by Neon90424: Nov 25, 2011 - 11:42 PM

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Yeah, it's quite angled. But I kinda like it, it's not that extreme. This is the best I could do:



This post has been edited by Ehrgeiz: Nov 26, 2011 - 9:13 AM

Thinking about to get an exhaust for my ST205.
What would u recommend to me?

Hope I can get some help on a couple questions.

Im gonna be running a non boosted 5SFE and see how much NA power I can get. Mainly, im starting with exhaust and intake. with exhaust, it sounds like you should run 2.25 - 2.5. I would like the low end kick but also want good power gain inthe high range as well. which (between the 2.25 and 2.5) is better for something like that? if neither, is there a happy medium between them like 2.38? (yes thats the rounded median, you can call me a nerd lol) and also I want a exhaust note with low rumble and sounds really mean when you hit the gas. My sister's boyfriend has a Contour SVT that has dual magnaflow canisters that sound sinster as hell (not the best example since contours of any kind are not the first things that come to mind when you think of 'sexy sports car' but thats all the exposure in my family that I have to tuning) but what are good mufflers and resonators for that kind of sound and performance? thanks for any responces about this!

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You'll keep more of your low end with the 2.25
as far as muffler go with the Magna flow slot of.people like the sound
I'm running my 5s with a eBay header an 2.5 with the cat an resonator deleted with a big fart can
Kinda high pitch but I could defiantly feel a difference over stock
But I would leave in eather a high flow cat or a resonator matched to what ever size pipe you run
Good luck hope that helped

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Okay thank you for the info! and how much low end would I lose if I went with 2.5? and alot of people seem to like the obx evo2 muffler and thats what I have been thinking and put down on my grocery list. any thought on this? and what ebay headers do you recommend? One that seems pretty nice is made by KOSpeed but there are quite a few and im not sure which are rice and which are nice.

This post has been edited by UndecidedPC9397: Dec 26, 2011 - 11:04 PM

I can remember witch one I got but I cost around 90 bucks an I know there were a few cheaper but there were better ones too I don't think the drop in low end will be that much
If anything I think it helped mine I couldn't leavethe line at the strip without rather burning tires or being way out of my power band
I like my 2.5 island much about what muffler sounds vest sorry

dont have to apolojize, youve given me info and your best opinion. and how the muffler sounds.... well, isn't that why we are blessed with ears and sound clips on youtube? lol

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Lots of videos have messed up sound because the recording device is **** though lol

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Thats a good point. . . well let me re-pharse then:

'well, isnt that why we are blessed with ears and SOME sound clips on youtube?'

I just contacted an exhaust shop and they said for custom exhaust piping made of aluminized steel they would charge me ~$400. Does this sound about right, and I told them Id supply my own resonator, header, and muffler. And what are some reputable exhaust shops in twin cities area, minnesota beside Full Blown Motorsports (The one I just contacted)

I don't know what prices around you are normally like but that seems super high to me
Mine was only 150 an I supplied the muffler
I had already put my header on so that dropped it some but still 400 sounds high

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HAAAAAAAAILLLL NO!!!! $400 for aluminized steel!!!!wtf.. at that point i would try to get some one like Presure2 here on the forums to do the exhaust for a bit more.. he does great work, and i know that he recently was looking onto the possibility of exhaust fabrication for the more popular types of setups.. i don't claim to know his schedule or available time, but he has supported this community allot and "stands by his exhausts" and his commitment to quality is of the best!!! and it would be in SS.. check this out

just saying, if you are providing all the parts (well almost all) and all they have to do is weld it together... $400 is way too much.. pretty much they are charging you$75 an hour and the remaining aluminized steel...

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Okay thank you so much for showing me this, youve been alot of help the past few days or so, its been tough around here and really feels like s*** is coming undone over here so im glad people on this forum are so willing to help, it means alot. And I did forget to mention the fact that im thinking of HEADER back, not cat back lol cuz my goals are to get as much horsepower I can to the point where if I wanted anymore, I would HAVE to turbo or swap. Is it a huge difference between header back and cat back performance wise? Again, thanks for all the help!

Mine was 150 header back i had already put my header on an they did the rest
I'd think anything over 200-250 would be too high

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Oh yours was header back?? WTF? there is one shop thats at thats border line, they said under axle they said would probably be 250 but they said they need to get the car on a lift and look at it and they're a half hour away!! its so bogus, Im kinda hating minnesota alot right now.... Things could be worse but I need a little slack right now... im still just focusing on praying for my car to be okay. but thank you for this information and your willingness to help, I really appreciate it, hope I can do the same someday to repay you guys. what do you think I should do? cuz I have absolutely no idea.... it isnt like I can just go anywhere and get a header back system on some website like ebay.

This post has been edited by UndecidedPC9397: Dec 31, 2011 - 1:40 AM

Id check all the local shops an see how much it is to get it done
Mine was over axle not under
If you have the spare time and tools changing the header out isnt that hard
If you cant find anywhere cheaper call that shop back an have them look at it
Oh an when i had mine done i had it tucked up close to the bottom of the car since i wasnt sure how much i was going to lower it
So i had it ran tight so it was actually higher than the low spots in the floor boards
Dont know what your full plans but thats something else youvmight want to think about

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Thinking of lowering at leats 2 inches, maybe 3, and want under axle cuz its less bends and less resistance. why did you go over the axle? and ill look into installing the header myself, what header are you running? thinking of the OBX header they have up for $180 (it seems the most legit and still have good access to oil filter) Theres just a bunch so just not sure what else to go with.

This post has been edited by UndecidedPC9397: Dec 31, 2011 - 2:51 AM

I wouldn't suggest you let ANY shops do any exhaust work. From my experience they are pretty useless unless they have a mandrel bender that can handle stainless steel piping and an actual WELDER working there. I made the mistake of having a shop make me a downpipe, they said aluminized steel would be best(i said i wanted stainless, they refused ) The bends were mediocre at best and the weld job was so HORRIBLE i actually walked up to the person welding and their manager and told them to allow me to weld it (they weren't happy, lol). Then they proceeded to charge me $200 for it. So i made sure to let them know i would be spreading the word about their handy work.

Maybe its just the shops ive been to but the people are lazy, inexperienced and overcharge to the max. Or maybe my standards are too high? I just expected them to fab me a downpipe that wouldn't leak and wasn't welded in the same place 5 times to cover a single seam. Is that too much to ask? (They failed too.) Come to think of it when i had my tires put on and alignment done, they underinflated my tires and took my celica for a joyride.

Undecided, If anything i would suggest you map out the way you want your exhaust system to be mounted. Buy the exhaust tubing you need, cut and do a mock fit up. Then bring it to a friend that has a welder and have them weld it up. It will be much cheaper that way if your only spending money on the parts and giving a friend some cash for the work. You can buy stainless or aluminized U-bends, J-bends, UJ- bends, 45deg, 60deg and 90deg bends and straight piping online. And if you can't find anyone, and you're willing to drive to appleton on a weekend, let me know before hand and im sure i can weld it for you. I have a Miller MIG welder i used to cover up the shops welds.
Right now i can't work on mine so i might as well help others anyway i can.

Btw, There are quite a few members that use the "ebay" header and have great success with them. No need to spend $180 on a $100 header unless its for preference cause in the end unless specified, they are all stainless.

Hope this helps,

-James-

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Sounds like you have bad luck with shops.
The shop I went to did a great job an used Ss tubing
My head cost around 90 an I'm happy with it.
An if your worried about the level of work the shop does talk around an see who most people seem to trust
Oh an I went with over axle because of 2 reasons I wanted my exhaust close to the car an I didn't know it was possible to run under axle at the time lol didn't do my research quote as well as you are

please tell me these guys are out of their minds. They want to charge me $3000 for a custom made Stainless Steel SUS304 exhaust system. haha that won't even be including the resonator and muffler of my choice. All this I've been hearing you won't find anything cheaper than $1000 dollars. The $1,000 i heard was for the header and down-pipe alone, from some guys over at the beams redtop forums.... what the helk!!!

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looks like I know who to go to for my exhaust.

what's up with ur car anyway?

****, for 3 grand you can import a blitz nur spec from japan lol

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He speaks the truth though, the BEST way IS to just do it your self.. plot it out, buy the bends, cut the cuts, do all the prep work (and make sure to mark the alignment marks) and then take a weekend to bring it to a friend who has the ability to weld it.. though IMO if you are going to go SS, get it TIG welded. ive charge friends a 24pk of dew and pizza's for the days' worth of work.. for full fab i'll usually charge about 1/4 of the going rate.. that way i get more practice and some $$ in my pocket. if you do the prep im sure you can get it done in the span of a weekend, and not have to go driving off w/o an exhaust..

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haha well turns out these guys are top notch. the company I would buy the material from provides exhaust systems for NHRA race cars. So you can imagine why they products are so expensive. the thing is that they don't do the fab work. Some guy 3 garages over does the fabrication.... but still seriously they are out of their minds. I might go to mexico to fab up or just buy the Stainless Steel SUS304 material haha I'm only 2 hours from Tijuana Mexico hehe

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What ever you do don't drink the water lol

Hey guys, I know it isn't a custom exhaust, but I have the chance to buy a brand new Greddy SP exhaust for $390, does this sound like a decent deal? This is the first I have seen for sale in forever, so it is hard for me to gauge a good price.

EDIT: I went ahead and pulled the trigger on this, hopefully I didn't get ripped off, but from what I can tell the Greddy SP has a nice mellow sound, and I can install it myself. The exhaust I had been planning was going to cost me ~600, so I saved a good bit, and got a brand new exhaust that I haven't seen available for a long time.

This post has been edited by Arsaces: Jan 11, 2012 - 1:19 PM

>I don't have the time or space to do the body work required so i sent it up to GB to have a family friend do it for a discounted rate. Once it gets done i'll finally have the funds from my new job to install a Lightweight flywheel, New OEM clutch straight from Toyota, 2 new A1 Cardone Axles, 2 front wheel bearings(might as well since im in there, my spinout on ice did some dmg.) New brass shift bushings, and the polyurethane engine mounts i bought awhile back.

When ever you want your exhaust done, let me know, I'll do what i can. Im going to try to find some stainless wire for my miller and get a tank of straight argon for it. I can't afford the TIG welder i want but im sure a MIG will do just fine. Otherwise i can weld it with a torch and stainless filler rod. :-D

BTW, I can only work on weekends. I work at Oshkosh Corp and they have me working 45+ hours a week.

wow so much information to absorb
i have a 5sfe 99 gt. im trying to determine whether or not the stock header is be better for cruising or fast takeoffs or is it a middle ground or does it just suck. i want to replace my first cat with a new one possibly hi flow but get rid of the second since the computer doesn't know its there anyway. if i do get an aftermarket header, do they all delete the first cat? im also trying to shed a little weight. im hoping that an aftermarket header will weigh significantly less than the stock cast iron one. any input on that? who has dyno charts to prove gains with their header?