Anyone ever heard of Fujitsubo FGK Legalis R?

yup, for ST202 3S-GE I'm pretty sure

I have searched it at some point before, and I know that st202 exhaust systems can be fitted with an extra pipe at the engine side, but what is everybody's opinions of what would be a better option on the 5S; st202 or custom piping with generic mufflers?

I know the benefits of the branded systems are that they are specifically tuned for the best note on that engine, so does it just defeat all of the benefits using it on a 5S? And also, ideal diameter for the 5S is 2.25 inch, I assume most 3S-GE systems are 2.5?

It would make it ready for a BEAMS swap though... hmmm...

This post has been edited by JoshuaM: May 25, 2013 - 8:52 PM

Pfft tuned.

Shortest path, least bends, 2.25" for NA, 3.00" turbo.

For NA spend least money possible, it's just not worth it.

All your getting is sound, freeing up 5hp in the top end isn't going to be noticible. Will just sound sound fast.

Well the st202 muffles bolt on to our st204?

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Seems a bit odd imo if you've bought an exhaust system, and have had to go to a muffler shop anyway to get additional piping done for it to fit?? but that's just me, haven't run into problems about lack of aftermarket parts for the ST202, as much as people with the 5S/ST204's

Other benefits of a branded exhaust system, designed specifically for that car/engine, quality work, direct bolt on. From memory there aren't 2.5" systems for the 3S-GE, they range from 2.25" to something odd like 2.35".

Well if you buy a 3S-GE exhaust system to fit a beams or fit a beams later on, you're going to have to use additional piping aswell, as the beams 4-2 extractors and/or 2-1 b pipe are/is shorter. Going off websites "will not fit beams" or "additional parts required". People haven't measured it on here, its guess work off photos.

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from what the above guy said, its not a complete direct bolt on, requires some additional pipe to finish it

I'm planning to upgrade my exhaust and I'm looking for double muffler with 2.5 piping, the only problem is that we have a top of 98 decibels to pass the annual inspection.

should I go with silencers instead of Megan Racing N1 or OBX B10 because it could go to loud with the piping ?

what else do you recommend, I know double does nothing but the looks but I always like the dual exhaust

Things that quiet down an exhaust:

Catalytic converter, Resonators, OE-like mufflers

Things that restrict airflow:

Catalytic converter, OE-like mufflers

Things you should put in your exhaust to quiet it down:

As many resonators as you can fit.

I want to install a robot version of this guy. Lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqRlqldSAKw

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Something like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnQs4IzEhvM

I still have my complete GoZigen Exhaust in storage, looks like a greddy sp1/sp2 with 2.5" diameter and with extension pipe. I wanna sell it, its bolt on for those who don't wanna deal with custom shiet. but donno who would wanna pay for shipping.

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see now this sounds good.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 22, 2014 - 11:10 PM

on another note, take a look at this 1996 ITR bpipe setup. Better and smoother flowing than the 3sge beams motor:



vs 3sge/3sge beams b-pipe

>>Heat shields removed
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vs

oem 3sge header attached with hks b-pipe. see smoother flow this is the most you'd probably get ot of a beams design. well bolts on without doing a custom header for beams...



vs

Custom made b-pipe from a beams member in Panama (the transition from 2-1 can bit smoothed out a bit but good execution)



This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: May 22, 2014 - 11:16 PM

can you get the bends with crush bent machine to be nicer than this without going mandrel bent? this is what my exhaust used to look like over the axle done by a local exhaust shop

my exhaust note!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POc2PptJknM

5zigen Pro Aspec on a curren 3sge Automatic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrgwwLOGTz0


Tanabe G Medalion Touring (stock curren 3sge automatic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKmwHvC_SFs

RS*R ExMag GTII on 3SGE automatic on curren with de-cat pipe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylgkzaHg5kE


Apexi WS2 (with HKS Header+downpipe, magnaflow catalytic converter+Vibrant ultra quiet resonator)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz_6OZm3Yx8

Apexi N1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wQEITnb7Xc


HKS Hi Power Cat back system = 32 pounds. The 6gc in this video has a Fujitsubo 4-2-1 manifold and Fensport De-Cat Pipe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4wjE1NOFok



HKS Super Drager (stock 3rd Gen 3SGE with catalytic converter)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2yqdAYPm_4


Kakimoto HYPER FULL MEGA N1 on stock on 3rd Gen 3SGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaIVORjXBh0


Kakimoto R on stock on 3rd Gen 3SGE = 28 pounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHcFfRqdHRg

Greddy SP2 Cat-back exhaust (5sfe engine with injen intake)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RVb3me-Zp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXVQ84kYbBs



Fujitsubo Legalis R on 3SGE Beams with catalytic converter = 35 pounds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBbNQ47yYzg


C-One cat back system (baffled design like Fujitsubo and TRD)
ST202 Celica C-One exhaust by Justin Towers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js-UYBXBZYU (this guy used to have a website dedicated to his celica)

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Feb 26, 2022 - 11:35 PM

Good info Bonzai (y)

I have a C-One exhaust system being shipped for my BEAMS, but for now this is the setup on my ST204;

-Hurricane Headers
-200 Cell 2.25" High flow catalytic converter
-2.25" bullet style resonator (12" from memory)
-PROF JDM muffler (baffled) 60mm (2.3") in, 100mm out.
-2.25" crush bent piping the whole way (but neat)

Then a 2" bullet muffler added to cut down on the raspyness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T85HnA51dlQ

bump added a few more videos i found on youtube. if any of you come across one on yahoo japan auction or upgarage you can reference the exhaust note here.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jan 4, 2017 - 1:01 PM

im trying to get a kakimoto exhaust system but it only comes in a st202, do you guys know if it can it fit a st204?

same chassis!!!! look on wikipedia. google for more information and differences between all 94-99 celica.

What kind of cat you guys use?
I've been looking at the magnaflow universal one and the one thats bends
http://store.throtl.com/magnaflow/magnaflo...it/g-54038.aspx
Will they fit?
On my 5sfe the cat is right after the manifold so how do i put the second o2 sensor on? a bung on the down pipe and longer wires? The first o2 sensor is on the ebay headers im gonna buy so thats good.

And also the harness clip for the o2 sensor is different then the regular ones do i have to solder or crimp it on if i want a new one?

This post has been edited by demmahom34: Mar 12, 2018 - 12:05 PM

>>for those of you with a 3rd or 4th gen 3S-GE motor needing to make your own Front/Ypipe Exhaust pipe. here are the dimensions for the stock flange Just need to figure out, how to convert into correct file type for CNC Shop so it can be machined out of 409 or 304 stainless.

20220926_093003 by Justin Towers, on Flickr

You can buy this mild steel flange to mate to your catalytic or test pipe.>>
2boltflange by Justin Towers, on Flickr

>>>>Or Buy this SUS304 Wide 2.5" flange for your custom B-Pipe>>>> Choose between 7mm or 11mm thick
https://xforceusa.com/products/fng06-s/?srs...sJ_VSdF7UekcJcR
https://xforceusa.com/products/f2s-w25/?srs...dewNnPWdAqK_bbP

>>if you ever damage your oem exhaust flange. you can replace it with the same mild steel material (hence the cheap price)>>
https://martelius.com/en/toyota-altezza-3sg...7pV8D7uhdDMTUwZ

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Jun 3, 2025 - 6:57 PM

The Celica turned twenty-five years old in 2018. That made it exempt from future emissions tests after the 2018 test, which it passed easily, as usual.
This gave me the opportunity to build a custom exhaust system. I did use a catalytic converter, and it would still easily pass emissions.
But with improved flow, lighter weight, and better sound.


Stainless header and downpipe

I started with a 4-into-2-into-1 "tri-Y" non-sequential stainless steel header made for a Corolla.


Fitting header

These two pieces saved fifteen pounds and they look a little bit better too.

New and old parts

I got the header and downpipe ceramic coated. This keeps the engine compartment much cooler and it keeps the exhaust hotter, reducing back pressure and improving catalyst performance.


Ceramic coated header and downpipe


Installed ceramic coated header

I decided to go with 2-1/4" tubing and a 2-1/4" catalytic converter, resonator, and muffler.


Exhaust system components

I selected a Magnaflow stainless catalytic converter with a built-in resonated core for further weight savings. I also selected a Magnaflow oval muffler.


Connection to cat


Bracket to use factory hanger


Installed bracket

I installed the downstream oxygen sensor after the catalytic converter where it belongs.


Installed cat and O2 sensor


Mid pipe fabrication


Mid pipe bracket to use factory hanger


Routing over the rear subframe


Hanger at front of muffler


This is the first rear muffler hanger

For some reason I had trouble making a rear muffler bracket that I liked and over time I ended up making four before finally settling on the bottom one.


Muffler rear hangers

I also made a long straight pipe that can be used to replace the muffler which was easy since the muffler has central inlet and outlet.


Tail pipes

Along with the exhaust system I advanced the ignition timing from the stock 10 degrees up to 15 degrees BTDC.

The end result, lighter weight, better sound, and a little more power.

wow,

you did a really nice job. I like the quality of the execution, it all looks well thought out

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Thanks!!

What's the number for that cat converter? I've never heard of a resonated converter but you've peaked my curiosity.

Wow that is some amazing fabrication work! If you find yourself wanting even more heat containment under hood you can wrap the upper section of the header and it'll run cooler than the OEM part. I had an un-coated wrapped header just like that for about 5-6 years before the car left me. I pulled the wrap back a couple times in random spots to check on it and the stainless underneath just had typical 304 surface roughness and cosmetic rust. No rot, no cracking. Not as pretty but certainly effective.

With your timing advance keep an eye on knock, I *think* you could use one of those DIY knock sensor alerts or but definitely a SAFCII to keep an eye on it, I ran at least mid-grade fuel with my 7A with about the same kind of mods because I did hear a little ping with regular 87 octane. Are you still running the stock airbox intake snorkel that runs up and behind the headlights? I assume it's pretty similar to the Corolla/Prizm, it's a surprisingly large restriction and in my case with the vehicle stock it's removal resulted in a very noticeable improvement in low end torque and got rid of this weird flat spot around 2000-2200 RPM.


Interesting side note, that flange between the upper and lower sections and it's gasket are a standard commodity part, if you need a new gasket there I believe it's the same as a Subaru 2.5L from like a 98ish Forester etc. WALKER 31613 which may also be the same flange/gasket a couple posts above for the 3S turbo stuff. It's like they're all picking from the same parts bin or something idk lol.

Thanks for your post, Bitter. Very helpful. That's a MagnaFlow 94405. About 7.5 lbs. I'm quite happy with it. They are available in other sizes. With the straight pipe in place of the rear muffler it's amazing how quiet it is. Too noisy for my taste but much quieter than a fully open exhaust would be.

It's amazing how cool the engine compartment runs now, it almost feels like you could touch the header while the engine is running. I am using 93 octane and I think it's safe but I will look into the knock sensors.

I am still running the stock intake including the snorkel. I should try removing it.

Updated photo of the rear muffler bracket:

double post. sorry

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Apr 13, 2025 - 4:40 AM

yes very nicely done exhaust system.

that front pipe gasket will probably fit his 7afe aftermarket header.

will def not fit the 3sge unit.