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rdyzz
#151
lol this thread... if only there were a way to slap two 3s heads on a v6 bottom end it would be comparable, but until then no amount of technology is going to give a 2L the same powerband as 3-3.3L none. all you can do is utilize the displacement and make it more efficient. i mean even if you have a variable valve lift, variable valve timing, variable intake runner and variable compression technology all in one engine (lol that would be one hell of an engine to tune) you will not get a 2L to make 200lb.ft of torque at near 2,500rpm.

besides you guys are wrong.

4age beats you, thats right 1.6l of furry. 500hp @ 40,000rpm 120lb tq @ 32,000rpm + cvt transmission = 240mph
kurt95gt
#152
What's the intake have to do with it??
An he's got a 1mz intake not a 3mz
95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's94 st hatch my daily driverhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235n
Celicaguy13
#153
I would so put a 1nz in my MR2 and turbo it!
MPG and decent power to putt putt around in
kurt95gt
#154
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QUOTE (rdyzz @ Oct 2, 2013 - 5:53 PM) *
>lol this thread... if only there were a way to slap two 3s heads on a v6 bottom end it would be comparable, but until then no amount of technology is going to give a 2L the same powerband as 3-3.3L none. all you can do is utilize the displacement and make it more efficient. i mean even if you have a variable valve lift, variable valve timing, variable intake runner and variable compression technology all in one engine (lol that would be one hell of an engine to tune) you will not get a 2L to make 200lb.ft of torque at near 2,500rpm.

besides you guys are wrong.

4age beats you, thats right 1.6l of furry. 500hp @ 40,000rpm 120lb tq @ 32,000rpm + cvt transmission = 240mph

I wanna see a 4age spinning at those rpms
That's gotta sound crazy
95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's94 st hatch my daily driverhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235n
ILoveMySilly97
#155
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QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 1:22 PM) *
>I do have a 1MZ swap in my MR2. I've also driven a BEAMs MR2. It's NOT a bad engine. It's fun. Just no torque. Reminds me of a Honda engine.


Wasn't our beams ssiii and the 7gc gts made to compete against the integras?
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Box
#156
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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 7:58 PM) *
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QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 1:22 PM) *
>I do have a 1MZ swap in my MR2. I've also driven a BEAMs MR2. It's NOT a bad engine. It's fun. Just no torque. Reminds me of a Honda engine.


Wasn't our beams ssiii and the 7gc gts made to compete against the integras?

More or less, though I'd take them over the Integra. tongue.gif
2001 Miata LS 5-speed
kurt95gt
#157
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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 8:58 PM) *
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QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Oct 2, 2013 - 1:22 PM) *
>I do have a 1MZ swap in my MR2. I've also driven a BEAMs MR2. It's NOT a bad engine. It's fun. Just no torque. Reminds me of a Honda engine.


Wasn't our beams ssiii and the 7gc gts made to compete against the integras?

Yes basically but not with the pos engine options we got state side
95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's94 st hatch my daily driverhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235n
Box
#158
It'd be as if Honda decided to use their non VTEC Civic and Accord engine in their sports car for the American market. For some reason Toyota thought they should do something along those lines.
2001 Miata LS 5-speed
Smaay
#159
sotck for stock, 7th gen GTS and integra GSR were equals, ITR's were a little faster.

WAAAAYYYY back in the day when i only had an AEM CAI and TRD exhaust, I was able to beat an ITR with an exhaust. For some reason my 7th gen was just a lil faster than most others.
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Box
#160
Supposedly the TRD exhaust brought it up to 190hp.
2001 Miata LS 5-speed
kurt95gt
#161
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QUOTE (Box @ Oct 3, 2013 - 12:03 AM) *
>Supposedly the TRD exhaust brought it up to 190hp.

Well yea its TRD duh
95 gt coupe, v6 swap weekend toy99 gt hatch beams swapped wife's94 st hatch my daily driverhttp://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=82235n
Box
#162
You also got a spiffy body kit. I'd like a 7GC GT-S.
2001 Miata LS 5-speed
celicakitten
#163
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QUOTE (bluecelicawife @ Oct 2, 2013 - 6:01 AM) *
>And where the hell did the whole Honda talk come from. Last I knew this was a Celica network. I'm pretty sure that is a totally different company...... laugh.gif now get back to Toyota!!!!!!


Well now it seems we've moved on to comparing the 7gc's with other cars....this thread really had no direction to begin with!

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QUOTE (BonzaiCelica @ Oct 2, 2013 - 4:18 PM) *
>only way i'd race smaay is if he had stock 1mzfe 98-00 camry or solora which produces 194-200 hp.

i would need to mix my fuel 91 octane and 100 octane to get a 94 octane mixture. then we can race. otherwise he will beat me. he's got a 3mz intake manifold.


It's okay, we can wait till my swap is finished then you guys can race...unless of course you have more excuses by then tongue.gif

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QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 2, 2013 - 11:57 PM) *
>sotck for stock, 7th gen GTS and integra GSR were equals, ITR's were a little faster.

WAAAAYYYY back in the day when i only had an AEM CAI and TRD exhaust, I was able to beat an ITR with an exhaust. For some reason my 7th gen was just a lil faster than most others.


Maybe it's just the driver, just saying. smile.gif
2004 Celica GT-2zz w/6-speed swap1999 Celica GT-3sgte swap1993 Celica All-Trac1997 Celica ST/Limited-rip1993 Celica GT-rip my first love
ILoveMySilly97
#164
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 2, 2013 - 9:57 PM) *
>sotck for stock, 7th gen GTS and integra GSR were equals, ITR's were a little faster.

WAAAAYYYY back in the day when i only had an AEM CAI and TRD exhaust, I was able to beat an ITR with an exhaust. For some reason my 7th gen was just a lil faster than most others.


You got one of them "monster" cars. Every once in a while the factory will make a monster car by accident. Lol.
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bnr32celica
#165
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QUOTE (ILoveMySilly97 @ Oct 3, 2013 - 3:17 AM) *
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QUOTE (Smaay @ Oct 2, 2013 - 9:57 PM) *
>sotck for stock, 7th gen GTS and integra GSR were equals, ITR's were a little faster.

WAAAAYYYY back in the day when i only had an AEM CAI and TRD exhaust, I was able to beat an ITR with an exhaust. For some reason my 7th gen was just a lil faster than most others.


You got one of them "monster" cars. Every once in a while the factory will make a monster car by accident. Lol.


No, driver mod.
Smaay
#166
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QUOTE (Box @ Oct 2, 2013 - 10:03 PM) *
>Supposedly the TRD exhaust brought it up to 190hp.



i took it to a dyno in TX and it made 174 to the wheels on a dynojet
2001 Celica GT-S Turbo1997 Supra TT 6speed1997 Celica 3MZ/1MZ swap1990 Celica All-Trac
Box
#167
Was 190 at the flywheel, so should be mid 160's at the wheels. So maybe if you were a little over 200 at the flywheel, that sounds kosher.
2001 Miata LS 5-speed
Takumi-FujiWaraS...
#168
LSX end thread jk.

But my legend uses the type2 c32 v6 and even though it's a boat it runs out real well, a celica with the 1mz would be very nice i'd love that.
Cleaning and improving my new found yoter little by little.
Box
#169
LS1 Miata, problem solved. tongue.gif
2001 Miata LS 5-speed
Rusty
#170
this thread has had its time

V6, 3S-GE, BEAMS, 3S-GTE or 9A-GE etc

Whatever makes "you" happy.


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