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snapshotgt
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Hey, i read somewhere while searching that the 7th. gen ones don't fit very well...and have some problem with the unit moving while shifting? True? I assume this is just due do a bad install since Dustin has compared side by side.

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QuintinGT
#92
I used a cresent wrench. I opened it enough for the metal to go through but closed enough to hold the plastic cups. Them I set the wrench on an open vice and hit the shifter with a hammer they popped right off.
Check out my thread
Batman722
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Hey, i read somewhere while searching that the 7th. gen ones don't fit very well...and have some problem with the unit moving while shifting? True? I assume this is just due do a bad install since Dustin has compared side by side.

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snap, I have them in both my ST and my GT, there are no problems at all. The thing that would make the shifter move from side to side is this
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not on correctly. smile.gif
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Starcraftjunkie
#94
Alright.. almost end of the road..
I'm trying to follow the TWM instructions, for reference.

If you refer to the TWM instructions, they've removed the sides of the centre console.. any clue how to do that? I've taken out so many screws and it's still stuck in there..

This post has been edited by Starcraftjunkie: Sep 4, 2006 - 4:56 AM
twitchh17
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Alright.. almost end of the road..
I'm trying to follow the TWM instructions, for reference.

If you refer to the TWM instructions, they've removed the sides of the centre console.. any clue how to do that? I've taken out so many screws and it's still stuck in there..



yeah in the photos you can see the sides of the center console removed. i guess they did that just to make it easier. but just follow the directions and you'll get it. while following directions youre gonna have to lift up the short shifter assembly at one point and that's where you won't have/want to remove the sides of the center console. good luck installing it. great mod for a low price.
Starcraftjunkie
#96
Ya, it's almost done, just need to go borrow a bigger socket from a neighbour. Someone should've mentioned the newer bolts are bigger (not just longer) than the stock. tongue.gif (12mm originals, 14mm modified).

It just happens my socket set for the bigger fittings are broken. frown.gif

Time to hope my neighbour has one (stupid timing for a holiday)
hitcachi
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the twm short shifter for the 6th gen is shorter... by far
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haha. totally false. by far?? No. In fact, about equal. celiracer has a twm, i have a 7th gen. We met up and compared shifters. Both agreed that they were about the same length and couldnt tell any noticable difference.
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Starcraftjunkie
#98
How the heck are you guys getting the ratchet to work with no room? I've been trying to tighten it for the last half hour and all I've done is mad myself mad.

The rear 2 you can somewhat get enough room for, but the front two are just cramped. I'm using one single socket extension for the rears. Is there another tool?

Can someone tell me how to remove the centre console trim at the front so I can get more room? I've taken out at least 8 screws and that piece is still attached to the top trim pieces.. argh...
laff09
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How the heck are you guys getting the ratchet to work with no room? I've been trying to tighten it for the last half hour and all I've done is mad myself mad.

The rear 2 you can somewhat get enough room for, but the front two are just cramped. I'm using one single socket extension for the rears. Is there another tool?

Can someone tell me how to remove the centre console trim at the front so I can get more room? I've taken out at least 8 screws and that piece is still attached to the top trim pieces.. argh...

put the end of the socket wrench in the hole under your CC, rather than pointing back towards the shifter...works pretty good
rzanology
#100
well...i orderd a ebay 7th gen short shifter....and it works perfectly fine. it actually makes shifting alot easier....Great mod for the car!!!
celicast3sgte
#101
ive been running my short shifter for a couple weeks with no issues. Its just an ebay 7th gen shifter. removing those rubber factory mounts made all the difference in the feel of the shifts. and i like the shorter shifter as well. no issues but i cut that one plastic tab everyone talked about while i was in there just incase.
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Mynzeyes
#102
TRD FTW still.

Remove complete stock assembly. Install complete TRD assembly. You set it, AND FORGET IT!

It's like the Showtime Rotisserie.

It may not be the shortest, but as many people know, the shorter the shifter/throw, is not always better...
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jess_i_74
#103
It's more a matter of money.
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jess_i_74
#104
Oh, and btw, thread is the same? So I can use a stock shift knob?
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jess_i_74
#106
What holds up your shift boot? Can you transfer the clip for it from the stock one?

Also, should I disconnect my negative battery terminal to do it, or am I not near anything airbag-related?

This post has been edited by jess_i_74: Sep 8, 2006 - 8:11 AM
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Mynzeyes
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What holds up your shift boot? Can you transfer the clip for it from the stock one?

Also, should I disconnect my negative battery terminal to do it, or am I not near anything airbag-related?


there is a small white perch on the shift arm that holds the shifter boot up. if you are installing a new arm, you will probably need to take it off the stock arm, and put it onto the new one. if it does not fit, you will either need to drill it out, or secure it in place some how if it is too big. i didn't see where anyone addressed that in this thread.

as far as the (-) battery terminal, you shouldn't need to, unless you are disconnecting anything that involves the airbag ecu that is located under the center console. installing my entire TRD assembly, i did not have to remove this, so i don't see any reason why you should. if you are at all anxious about it, better safe than sorry. it takes at most 1 minute to pop the hood, remove the connection, and get back into the car. smile.gif.
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WH95TE
#108
This will be my first big mod lol.

What exactly does it do?
jess_i_74
#109
Shortens the throw of your shifter.

Mine's on its way . . .
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tonytutino
#110
yea i bought mine off of ebay for the 7th gen. it works fine however it wobbles... i'm curious if it was that little bolt clip like someone mentioned a few posts ago. i dont feel like taking it all apart to check lol. its a real easy mod i thought, it just took a wicked long time.
well worth your money
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nightryder
#111
just finished me 7th gen short shifter swap. I am very happy with the results, i do need to grease it up some more, but she does feel one hell of a lot better than before. I dont know what you guys are tlaking about, i didnt have to cut any plastic piece and she feels fine.

you were just talking about the white piece that holds up the boot, mine was big for the new shifter so I had to wrap some electrical tape around the shaft to make it fit snuggly, other than that, about and hour and a half of work and it feels flawless.

gr8 45$ mod!
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jess_i_74
#112
Installing mine now, but have a question.

For the spring that centers the L-shaped piece, where do the two ends of it go? Does each end go around the little rubber stop in there? The shifter does not really want to center well anymore. Maybe that's why I have to cut that little plastic piece.
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jess_i_74
#113
Nope, cut the plastic piece, still doesn't center. I have my spring in wrong somehow.
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jess_i_74
#114
Ok, I got it done. Took me closer to two hours, because I ended up losing my clip and getting something I thought that would work from the hardware store, but didn't.

Anyways, I took a before-and-after from *exactly* the same location (resting on the center console):
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Easy cup removal with a cone wrench (from a set of bike tools):
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My bottom cup was a pain; it didn't go in until I put my entire weight on it. Also, I think it might be a bit oversized, since it doesn't fit down into the shifter cable connection quite as it should.


Oh, and nothing holds up your shift boot. It stays up by itself since it is too long. You can't get the old white holder from the stock one off, as far as I can tell.
It's a totally different animal to shift now; it is more notchy for sure, but I like the feel. It reminds me of an old buddy's Mustang. I keep thinking I'm not into reverse though because it doesn't go back far enough.

This post has been edited by jess_i_74: Sep 15, 2006 - 8:36 PM
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SpoonR530
#115
The Mod worked out very well. I am pleased with the cheap lil upgrade. You definitely have to remove those 4 rubbers mounts for it to install proper. Thanx for all the Pics and info all. biggrin.gif

This post has been edited by SpoonR530: Sep 19, 2006 - 12:03 PM
phokur
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Awesome thread, although I am still confused over which is being used here. There seems to be two types on eBay, one with purple spacers, and one with silver.
Silver
Another Silver
Purple Spacers
Which is good?
jess_i_74
#117
People have used both, I believe. I got purple. it's not really the color of spacers, it's the fact that they are thicker than stock (which both are). I don't know that anyone has ever compared the two, but I think they are probably almost identical.
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snapshotgt
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People have used both, I believe. I got purple. it's not really the color of spacers, it's the fact that they are thicker than stock (which both are). I don't know that anyone has ever compared the two, but I think they are probably almost identical.


Any more thoughts on this?
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tomazws
#119
I got the silver one. Took me a while to realize I have to remove the rubber things in order to put in the silver legs.

I say this is a great mod if you don't lose your shift nob...

I'm shifting with bare shift-stick. lol
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snapshotgt
#120
Bought the Fidanza 7th gen short shifter. I also got an is300 shifter knob for it! smile.gif
Past: V6 Swapped 6G Celica, E46 BMW M3, Jeep Wrangler TJCurrent: 850rwhp C6 Corvette Grandsport, Gen1 6.2L Ford Raptor
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